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Amb
Amb the Hitched.
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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 9:50 am Post subject: 1 |
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Recently all us admins got a PM about locking spam threads so that others with appropriate skills can deal with them later. We lock them so they dont end up being left alive.
Why not create a forum called Spam Dump and make it hidden. Then us admins need only delete the content if bad, and move the spam post to a forum that is out of sight to most. This way we can keep the other pages clean and tidy with real posts. We cant obviously use it if a spam post appears in say the middle of a mafia game...
Any opinions? |
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Amb
Amb the Hitched.
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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 9:52 am Post subject: 2 |
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| My apologies to those who dotn like my poll of only 2 options. The third option of "Dont know/Dont care/Other" disappeared. I dont know why. Probably didnt like the slashes. |
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Antrax
ESL Student
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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 9:58 am Post subject: 3 |
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Or maybe you just pressed "Submit" before clicking on "add".
That being said, I don't understand why this is an issue of public concern. You could have just PMed me and I'd have done it, a hidden forum doesn't interfere with any of the users in any way, and I doubt the majority of GLers are interested in threads-that-used-to-be-spam. _________________ After years of disappointment with get rich quick schemes, I know I'm gonna get rich with this scheme. And quick! |
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jeep
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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 6:29 pm Post subject: 4 |
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Agreed, I see no reason not to do this... When splitting off the selected posts, please include some tag to the title to let us know if it's work inappropriate or work safe.
-JEEP |
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Bicho the Inhaler
Daedalian Member
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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 9:40 pm Post subject: 5 |
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| Antrax wrote: |
| That being said, I don't understand why this is an issue of public concern. |
Because the current method of handling spam makes its presence visible to everybody, it has become an issue of public concern. I like amb's idea. The absence of any vestige of spam posts from the public forums would enhance the Grey Labyrinth experience. Whether you want to delete them outright or move them to a special hidden forum, though, is not my concern. |
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Lepton*
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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 10:56 pm Post subject: 6 |
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| Do all the mods have access to the Forum Moderators forum? It is hidden and unused (except for private GL keg parties). |
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Chuck
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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:04 pm Post subject: 7 |
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| I can see it and I'm just a basic, low level moderator. |
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MatthewV
Daedalian Member :_
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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:21 pm Post subject: 8 |
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| We need a new sekkret forum so we can be elitist and snobby. |
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Amb
Amb the Hitched.
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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 6:34 am Post subject: 9 |
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Apologies Antrax, I didnt know I could just get things secretly done around here. Maybe you should expect a whole bunch more PMs from me
Actually I just assumed that all things were done semi publicly around here, and i never thought to question it.
So I assume that is what we are going to do then? |
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Antrax
ESL Student
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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 6:40 am Post subject: 10 |
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| Actually I just assumed that all things were done semi publicly around here, and i never thought to question it. |
Things that have a bearing on the users, always. But who cares what happens to spam posts, exactly? To the average user, a post being deleted or moved to a forum he can't access and doesn't see on the index page is exactly the same.
Bicho, I suggest you read my post again in entirety. Or read this one, instead. Spam has a bearing on users, this particular issue is akin to the users discussing how I should write the comments above the modifications I make in the site code. _________________ After years of disappointment with get rich quick schemes, I know I'm gonna get rich with this scheme. And quick! |
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Bicho the Inhaler
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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 7:00 am Post subject: 11 |
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| Antrax wrote: |
| But who cares what happens to spam posts, exactly? To the average user, a post being deleted or moved to a forum he can't access and doesn't see on the index page is exactly the same. |
I agree.
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| Spam has a bearing on users, this particular issue is akin to the users discussing how I should write the comments above the modifications I make in the site code. |
The issue isn't choosing whether you should move spam to a special forum or delete it. It's whether spam posts are left in the forums or removed, period. At least, that's how I understand amb's post. |
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Samadhi
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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 8:31 am Post subject: 12 |
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I think this is a great idea.
Moving it to another forum works really well for me (or anyone else who is banning) since it makes the IPs that need to be banned very easy to find. Easier for the mod who first finds the post too. No need to post in the 'banning request' thread, just move it to a hidden forum.
My only concern is that I've seen some spam re-spammed after it has been deleted. Some kind of anti-anti-spam algorithm I guess. If mods move the post and the IP isn't banned, the bot could re-post.
I don't think that's a tremendous concern though. When this happens it should be easy to see, and then whoever could just leave it until the IP is banned.
So...I guess the only decision is whether we use a new forum or an existing forum. I for one would prefer a new forum for aesthetic purposes. Tossing spam into a forum that, even thought not generally used, wasn't intended for spam seems inelegant. |
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Samadhi
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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 8:41 am Post subject: 13 |
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I made a forum called "Spam!"
If any mod can't see it, let me know.
If anyone doesn't like the position of the forum on the listing, or doesn't like that it exists at all, please let me know. |
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MatthewV
Daedalian Member :_
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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 8:56 am Post subject: 14 |
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| It should go under Administration. |
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Samadhi
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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 9:03 am Post subject: 15 |
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~whatever~  |
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Antrax
ESL Student
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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 1:34 pm Post subject: 16 |
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| The issue isn't choosing whether you should move spam to a special forum or delete it. It's whether spam posts are left in the forums or removed, period. At least, that's how I understand amb's post. |
For the past year or so, they've been deleted once spotted. No-one complained about this policy. Frankly, I don't see any rational reason why people would be interested in spam placeholders. _________________ After years of disappointment with get rich quick schemes, I know I'm gonna get rich with this scheme. And quick! |
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Samadhi
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Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 10:33 am Post subject: 17 |
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Is there a way to deny anyone who enters '@mail.ru' for their email, but not tell them *why* they've been denied, or better yet default it to another general failure loop?
Spambots seem to have that @ A LOT. |
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Antrax
ESL Student
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Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 10:44 am Post subject: 18 |
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Yes there is. Are you sure no legitimate users use @mail.ru ? _________________ After years of disappointment with get rich quick schemes, I know I'm gonna get rich with this scheme. And quick! |
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Samadhi
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Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 10:47 am Post subject: 19 |
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It certainly seems so. Checking my spam mail and the spam profiles here on this site, @mail.ru comes up way too often.
Give them the option of mailing an admin for help. Bots will never use that, or if they do whoever receives it can just delete if it's spam. |
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MatthewV
Daedalian Member :_
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Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 1:45 pm Post subject: 20 |
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| mail.ru is the Russian hotmail. There are many potential legitimate people who would use a mail.ru email address. |
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Samadhi
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Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 2:37 pm Post subject: 21 |
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| Are you suggesting we should care about russians? |
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Neo
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Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 1:09 am Post subject: 22 |
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Why not just a 2+2 = ? field?
Wierd. I can't see what I'm typing right now. I see the cursor, but I don't even see th etext box. _________________
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Neo
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Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 1:10 am Post subject: 23 |
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Seemed to just be a one time thing. _________________
Ad Astra
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mudbuck
Dirty Dollar
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Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 6:17 am Post subject: 24 |
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What? Potential legitimate people who would use a @mail.ru my butt.
There are so many alternative e-mail hosts out there. There just needs to be a message stating that "Sorry, but due to problems with spam, addresses with @mail.ru have been blocked. Please sign up for a different account and try again." |
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Samadhi
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Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 6:23 am Post subject: 25 |
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| Plus...they're Russians. |
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MatthewV
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Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 11:38 am Post subject: 26 |
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Many of the spammers appear to be Russians. We need to IP ban the Motherland.
No really, banning mail.ru is logical in the same fashion that hotmail.com is frequently banned. They are free sites that are easy to create spam accounts from. |
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Courk
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Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 3:54 pm Post subject: 27 |
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| Let's ban Alaska, too. :-P |
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Samadhi
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Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 5:57 am Post subject: 28 |
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I can't find one legitimate user who uses @mail.ru as an email address. In fact even .ru as an ending for email. I checked the last 200 registered users and of the ones that were spammers, about 75% of them had either @mail.ru (about 68%) or .ru (the rest of the 75%) for their email address.
Put in a notice if you want, preferably something obtuse like "there's a problem with your email", or maybe a gif instead of text, but I really think it'd be a good idea to ban that email ending. _________________ And he lived happily ever after. Except for the dieing at the end and the heartbreak in between. |
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HyToFry
Drama queen
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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 2:22 am Post subject: 29 |
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We could always put up a disclaimer. Something like "@mail.ru address are not registerable, because they're generally attached to spam accounts. If you're a legitimate user who has no other access to email, you can request an admin to lift this ban for you."
Maybe we could mention something about posting in FR/SP... I think you're still allowed to post unregistered in FR/SP? Unless that's changed... _________________ "History is merely a list of surprises. It can only prepare us to be surprised yet again." Hi ho. |
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CB*
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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 1:44 pm Post subject: 30 |
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It surely seems to be allowed.  |
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worm
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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 5:34 pm Post subject: 31 |
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| yup, no problem for me, either |
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raekuul
Lives under a bridge & tells stories.
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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 6:36 pm Post subject: 32 |
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| amb wrote: |
We cant obviously use it if a spam post appears in say the middle of a mafia game...
Any opinions? |
Yeah: Split out selected posts function is a niiice tool. |
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Samadhi
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Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 2:46 pm Post subject: 33 |
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Precisely, raekuul! Thanks for addressing that overlooked point.
Unlike the old forum, not only can whole threads be moved, specific posts from threads can be moved. _________________ And he lived happily ever after. Except for the dieing at the end and the heartbreak in between. |
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wordcross

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Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 5:25 am Post subject: 34 |
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out of curiosity, does anyone else remember ever seeing a poll where the votes were unanimous like these are? I realize by saying this that someone is now going to come and vote no just to throw it off, but whatever  _________________ Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like? |
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MatthewV
Daedalian Member :_
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Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 6:13 am Post subject: 35 |
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| The Chess^4 unanimously said I was going to win. |
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wordcross

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Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 2:33 pm Post subject: 36 |
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not for two months, it didn't  _________________ Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like? |
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HyToFry
Drama queen
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Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 5:09 pm Post subject: 37 |
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You can definately post a new thread in FR/SP with an unregistered accound (let's just hope the spammers don't figure that out.)
worm:  _________________ "History is merely a list of surprises. It can only prepare us to be surprised yet again." Hi ho. |
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Death Mage
Raving Lunatic
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Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 3:26 am Post subject: 38 |
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| Neo wrote: |
Why not just a 2+2 = ? field?
Wierd. I can't see what I'm typing right now. I see the cursor, but I don't even see th etext box. |
How would you fit enough nines after the decimal place though?
And, since I haven't tried creating a new account in a while... what kind of automated anti-bot methods do you guys currently have in place? We can't very well try suggesting things you already have and end up with anything successful. _________________ * These senseless ramblings brought to you by Insanity™. If you just can't figure the dang thing out, it must be Insanity™.
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Samadhi
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Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 6:49 am Post subject: 39 |
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| what kind of automated anti-bot methods do you guys currently have in place? We can't very well try suggesting things you already have |
It's easier for you to attempt to make a new login than it is for me to explain it to you. _________________ And he lived happily ever after. Except for the dieing at the end and the heartbreak in between. |
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Death Mage
Raving Lunatic
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Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 7:04 am Post subject: 40 |
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I don't have a high enough IQ to sign up anymore. Hell, I cheated last time.
First off, your picture looks way too easy for a computer to read it.. most I've seen were so distorted I had trouble seeing them sometimes. Secondly, I like the "2+2" idea. Lastly, have you guys been checking up with updates to the software? _________________ * These senseless ramblings brought to you by Insanity™. If you just can't figure the dang thing out, it must be Insanity™.
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