Random Lynch# Mafia: Game over! TCM makes a record!!

[Ctorj]

In the world of randomness, there is disorder...of the not so randomness kind. Apparently, a presence has begun randomizing things beyond their usual randomness! Not knowing how this is possible, your mission is to put everything back to "normal". As the good citizens of randomness, it is obvious a group out there is making sure that havoc is everywhere. This evil group will stop at nothing, even murder. Random, the random clown, has been brutally killed!! He provided so much random joy to all. It is now time to seek justice!

Alive and random (1)
11) The Cheshire Man

Dead and orderly (14)
03) Poker, mason, townie is lynched Day 1. (2 votes needed)
01) Shadowpuppet, townie, townie is also lynched Day 1. (the people have spoken)
13) Jedo the Jedi, townie, townie is strangled Night 2.
08) Pooky, mason, townie is backstabbed Day 2!
10) Kaoru dono, 1 shot Vig, Pro-town, is lynched Day 2. (1 vote needed)
02) Courk, townie, townie, is shot Night 2.
07) Fritzler, random mafia, scum is lynched Day 3. (7 votes needed)
05) Dan, Random Doctor, Pro-Town, is stabbed strangled to death Night 3!
04) Omega Centauri, Cop, Pro-Town is shot & stabbed Night 4!
14) referee, mason, townie, is lynched Day 6!
12) MoS Crazy Diamond, townie is strangled Night 6!
09) Jabroni2000 AZu, random mafia, scum is stabbed Night 6!
06) alphatango Dan, random mafia GF, scum is lynched Day 7!
15) Quailman, mayor of Randomness, townie, is stabbed after game!!

[Ctorj]

THE RULES (stolen from Mgm, mostly, as usual)
[00] Newbies should try to make themselves familiar with the basic rules of mafia as described in the FAQ and theory sections on http://www.mafiascum.net (Reading my or Mgm's older games wouldn't hurt either)
[01] Have fun and don't be a jerk. Please have consideration for the other players and the mod, and actually PLAY the game by posting and voting. If you cannot post for some reason, please contact the mod.
[02] No communication outside the thread unless your role allows you to do so.
[03] Get your choices in before the deadlines. If not, no choice will be made.
[04] No quoting role PMs or night messages. If you have a death wish, request replacement. When in doubt ask the mod.
[05] If you're dead YOU'RE DEAD. No more posting relevant information after that. One bah post is allowed.
[06] Lynching will be carried out once the random number votes needed (known only by the mod) is reached.
[07] Only votes in BOLD will be counted. Unvotes are mandatory.
[08] Only votes with players correctly spelled names (or abbreviations, see player list) will count.
[09] Do NOT edit or delete your posts under pain of modkilling! If you made a coding error, just post again.
[10] Do NOT post in invisible text or at night.
[11] The mod is always right. Deal with it.

Additional rules:
[12] The number needed for a lynch will always be at most 2 less than the total number of players alive at that time. (Example: If there are 10 alive, then the maximum number needed for a lynch that will be randomly chosen will be 8) In the unlikely event of a day kill, the number will be dropped if certain conditions are met.
[13] Deadlines will be put on when conversation drops. Note: If the number needed for a lynch is not met, then there is no lynch!
[14] Lynches will be carried out once the number is reached. However, this being the land of randomness, if the mod gets online and someone unvotes before the mod catches it, then there is no lynch.
[15] If possible, please pm all questions to the mod unless you see the answer as benefitting for everyone.
[16] If the required number of votes is reached by multiple parties, then the person with the most votes overall will be lynched.

[Ctorj]

I would urge everyone to read the rules before posting as not doing so may be hazardous to your health!!
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[Shadowpuppet]

If a single vote can cause someone to be lynched. Then it is very dangerous to out and out vote. Lets work out what the normal 'Lynch' count is and then use FOS's to vote. Then if someone reaches that number, we ALL put our votes on. This way we won't be harmed by the random nature of the game, and we dont end up with Docs and Cops dead by threats that took them to and over the brink before they knew it was there.

There are 15 alive. It will take 8 to FOS to make us all vote. Done? Good! I knew there would be other intellectual giants amongst us.

Random FOS Alphatango. Be FOSsed SCUM!

[Kaoru dono]

while that makes sense, prevents mafia from being too powerful in low vote days, blah blah etc.

It's just not randomly cool
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Oro?

[Fritzler]

I actually plan on voting someone every day, cuz I think it would be cool to lynch somoene with one vote. AFter the first vote of the day I'll use FOSes though.

Dice Roll:

Original Roll String: 1d14 1 14-Sided Dice Results: 3

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[Fritzler]

vote: omega centurai

[Shadowpuppet]

You sir are a complete and total idiot!

If today is a one sized vote, then may you die alongside your target! The method I suggested is designed to give us a little more control and not watch helplessly while a random person dies because we dont know anything about when the day will END!!! What possible information would we gain from a lynch three posts into the day. We wouldnt get voting histories or anything. We wouldnt even have chance to catch a scum in a lie. What we get is the mafia with a bonus kill (ignoring random fluke of a scum death), no information save that you screwed a player to death. While the protowns dont get an extra investigation or any hints whatsover the scum will start day 1 with an extra person dead. I hope someone vigilante kills you, because that just sucks.

Unfos Randomly
Fos Fritzler

I wont vote you despite your extraordinary lack of brain power. I'll let the rest of the town have a bit of a think first.

[Ctorj]

Vote Count
Omega -1- (Fritzler)

Not Voting (14)
Shadowpuppet, Courk, Poker, Dan, alphatango, Fritzler, Pooky, Jabroni2000, Kaoru dono, The Cheshire Man, MoS, Jedo the Jedi, referee, Quailman
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[Dan]

Shadowpuppet, settle. I was going to do the same thing. The only way we'll know how many votes it takes is to test.

While your FOS business is all well and good, I don't feel like keeping track of FOSs. If you want to, go ahead.

I feel it's much easier to think of every higher vote as a lynch. Since we already know one vote won't kill someone, the "to-lynch" number is now assumed to be two.

This being the first day, I think it's beneficial that we have a random vote number. Day 1 tends to drag on, and if we spend our time counting FOSs and then trying to get everyone to vote on it this day might not end until next year. Not to meantion the fact that it could take more than 8 votes to lynch someone, so if we follow your system and everyone switches from FOS to votes and we still come up short, what then?

So, that being the case, I think it'll be okay if we have a simple system: Only push the threshhold of the lynch number if you really think the person is suspicious/scummy, and think the twon would benefit from them being lynched. 'Nuff said.

Vote: Jedo, just cause I wanna. Fritzler, you did everyone a service by giving us the power to vote today. In future days we'll have past posts to look back to before we vote in the morning, but that was the biggest step of the game.
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[Ctorj]

Vote Count
Jedo the Jedi -1- (Dan)
Omega -1- (Fritzler)

Not Voting (13)
Shadowpuppet, Courk, Poker, alphatango, Fritzler, Pooky, Jabroni2000, Kaoru dono, The Cheshire Man, MoS, Jedo the Jedi, referee, Quailman
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[Poker]

OK, so now we know we can safely random vote, so long as no two of us vote for the same person. That's a good start. Now, if two of us vote for the same person, there is a 1 in 12 chance of that person being lynched.

Random Vote: alphatango

Your reaction to Fritzler was understandable, Shadowpuppet. After all, Fritzler did have a 1 in 13 chance of ending the day before it could get rolling. But from the bit I've seen of Fritzler, my guess would be that that wouldn't really be unusual. I agree with Dan in that Fritzler performed an excellent service by providing the first vote, but then he could just be trying to get respected.

I like your strategy though, Dan. It's the obvious one. That said, I'll still keep my eyes open, though, in case I spot anything to go against you or anyone else.
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[Fritzler]

[Dan]

[referee]

others say they understand you and relax. Not me. We play for fun and personal insults are not fun. So I'm going to Vote: Shadowpuppet

[Pooky]

Look. I'm sure we didn't sign up for this game because we wanted to play regular old mafia except we'd have to go through the inconvenience of FOSing first instead of just plain voting.

It takes the whole point out of this random votes needed to lynch thing.

I say we just roll with it and have fun.
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[Shadowpuppet]

Looh here now. I tried to help the town and Fritzler turned out and tried to kill the town. And then rather than seeing the obvious, that we need to be careful with our votes, we have people throwing them about hoping to win the game. Why not stop posting at all, and just vote without discussion then? Its stupid. We have a chance to play this out tactically - but instead you react "Oh no, thats a plan I dont like, and he called Fritz stupid for voting prematurely, vote ShadowPuppet". Thats just stupid. You'll notice I didn't vote Fritz back. We need to take stock and think. The mafia, will be thinking right now, and they will be able to plan tactics. Something we can't do is rush vote. Its no offense against Fritz, but I insist that we call stupid play "stupid" and move on. We now have a bunch of players who think they can throw in votes with immunity and impunity. Hasnt any one else noticed that THERE ARE NO RULES on TIES! ie we might see a whole group go, or just the person who got there first. Not good if you have a claim or genuine information that should be bought out into the open one day, but won't if the town sends it to the grave because of unthinking, untactical votes.

Do NOT vote randomly. Even if the day ends up with a random victim, let's have discussed the strategy more. There hasnt been a night yet.

I don't want to see the day end before we have discussed anything. Or worse to see someone lynched without a defense. Every vote brings us closer to that mark - where we run the risk of helping the mafia complete their game.

[Jedo the Jedi]

Dammit! Fritzler beat me to it. I was talking with amb last night about placing the first vote of the day, and here Fritz gets to it before me. My sentiments were the same as you, Fritz, and I don't blame you for doing what you did.

That said, I also understand the FOS theory, though I think it is highly impractical. I say just go through the day and do what you want to do. People are going to be lynched and such, but that's how things happen. We'll still get info from the deaths, and probably some info about the vote count business.

[aside]Are the lynch numbers set and each different than the other, or are they completely random where each day could be the same number as the one before it? i.e. Can't have the same number twice?[/a]

[Fritzler]

I agree with Pooky, I played this game to have people randomly lynched.

[Dan]

Vote Poker then. I got him on the ropes!
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[Fritzler]

OK. unvote vote: poker*

*Dan told me too

[alphatango]

That'll teach me to be asleep while a mafia game is starting -- I almost missed all the fun!

Random Vote: MoS

I have a feeling it's going to be a loooong day...
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[Fritzler]

[Dan]

It's true, I kinda did tell him too. But now we're in this together Fritzler. I could unvote now, since it says in the rules that we can dodge the mod's wrath that way, but I want to see what happens.
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[Fritzler]

Me too.

[Courk]

Darn it! I wanted to add a second vote. I woudl have voted for Shadow puppet, though. Well, heck, I still can. Vote: Shadowpuppet I'm getting those "Look, I'm being helpful to the town [but I'm really mafia]" vibes from him.

[Courk]

Oh, and I'm not here to play mafia. I'm here to play Random Lynch Number Mafia.

[Fritzler]

If this isn't lynch I'm gonna join you on shadow puppet.

[Shadowpuppet]

Vote Fritzler

Sigh.

You will listen later on when you start losing...

[Courk]

By any chance, do you usually play mafia over at Scum?

[Fritzler]

Is that at me or shadowpuppet?

[Courk]

shadowpuppet.

[Kaoru dono]

This might just be uhh me, the poor innocent maiden I am, but shouldn't the first day be spent without the slaugter of the innocent? Why don't we have those few cops and all those roled characters do their job, give them a day to check things out, and then allow them to subtly direct our wrath against those who seek to bring order and stability?
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Oro?

[Dan]

So you're saying we shouldn't lynch someone on Day 1?

Hasn't this arguemnt reached chestnut status by now?
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[Courk]

I think our problem is that we have two groups of players.

Group 1 (the "sensible" group) is trying to figure out a strategy so that the random lynch number can be used to the town's advantage.

Group 2 (the "crazy" group) wants to play the game like normal, and let the crazy random vote count wreak it's havoc.

Obviously these groups would be opposed to each other. One is paying special attention to the new rules, and the other wants to ignore them.

I'm in group 2.

[Fritzler]

unvote vote: shadowpuppet

Group 2 represent!!

[Dan]

[Courk]

I signed up with the intention of the "crazy" group, at least.

[Fritzler]

Me too.

[The Cheshire Man]

Not me. I'm in the sensible group. I like the idea of strategically torturing the poor soul being bandwagoned, like so:


Inquisitor 1: Victim is being scummy! Vote: Victim

Victim: I am not scum, you scum! OMGUS Vote: Inquisitor 1

Inquisitor 2: I agree with Inquisitor 1. Vote: Victim

Victim: Ahh! Help, I'm being bandwagoned!

Inquisitor 2: Take that scum! Now claim!

Victim: Ha! After only two votes? Never!

Inquisitor 3: Claim..or I'll see whether the random limit is three this time.

Victim: You wouldn't dare...

Inquisitor 3: Oh no? Watch me. Vote: Victim

Victim: Bah! All right, I'll tell, I'll tell. Just please, unvote me. I'm...I'm...Mr. Jibblies.

Inquisitor 2: Mr. Jibblies. Well, now we're getting somewhere. Okay, Mr. Jibblies, tell us about your role power.

Victim: My role power? What would you want that information for...you fiend!

Inquisitor 2: Call me what you will, but we will have that information, even if we have to investigate your corpse after the lynch. It will go much better for you if you cooperate.

Inquisitor 1: Now tell us your role power!

Victim: No! No, a thousand times, NO!

Inquisitor 2: You leave me no choice. Bubba, if you please.

Bubba: der...Vote: Viticm

Inquisitor 2: Spell it right, you misbegotten fool!

Bubba: No, sorry master, please don't vote bubba! bubba get it right this time, master will see. Unvote: Viticm, Vote: Victim

Victim: No! I beg of you, unvote me before it's too late! I'm town, I swear I'm town!

Inquisitor 2: Save your cries for someone who cares. Now tell me your role power before I have Bubba's brother vote you, too!

Victim: All right! I'll talk! Each night I can fling a squid at one player of my choice. Now will you unvote me?

Bystander: Lying scum! I'm the squidflinger! Vote: Victim

Mod: With 5 votes, Victim is hauled to the town square and lynched. Upon investigation, it turns out Victim was actually the Fangorious Werepenguin who had been eating three handicapped orphans from the orphanage each night.

Inquisitor 1: Woot! Go town!

Victim: Curses! Foiled Again!
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