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Talitha
the Judge!



PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 11:55 am    Post subject: 81 Reply with quote

I may be a sucker, but I'm not voting for Lee.

unvote: rm
vote: L'layne

Looks like you went back over Lee's posts looking for any excuse to jump on.
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Dragon Phoenix
Judge Doom



PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 12:00 pm    Post subject: 82 Reply with quote

For your convenience on the new page:

Vote count, ten to lynch:

LML 9 (mith, mgm, Soothsayer, IS, jedo, Leonidas, Mackay, amb, L'layne)
ralphmerridew 2 (LML, Chienfou)
Talitha 2 (Logain, MadMax)
Shanterusan 1 (da Q)
Quailman 1 (Shanterusan)
MadMax 1 (Sweetwater)
L'layne 1 (talitha)
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Mgm
Roar!



PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 12:01 pm    Post subject: 83 Reply with quote

Wasn't there enough to jump on already?
Regardless of whether L'layne intentionally looked it up as a reason to vote, the fact remains. The quote he mentioned is very suspicious indeed.
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Internet Stranger
Paragon of Mafia Hunters



PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 12:15 pm    Post subject: 84 Reply with quote

Excellent work Lee! Stand strong, dont let these rabid dogs get at you!

Now, lets lynch him anyways and hurry over to Day 2.
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Talitha
the Judge!



PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 12:17 pm    Post subject: 85 Reply with quote

Mgm, let's talk about that... why is that quote suspicious?
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Mgm
Roar!



PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 12:23 pm    Post subject: 86 Reply with quote

Quote:

As of right now, pick ANY 5 players in the list, and you have a scary mafia group.

Simple. He's assuming there's 5 mafia. He could've said pick any "group of players" "any number of players", instead he specifically mentioned 5. To me that looks like a Freudian slip.
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Quailman
His Postmajesty



PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 12:41 pm    Post subject: 87 Reply with quote

I agree. That's enough to convince me. Let's end this day.

vote: LML
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mith
Pitbull of Truth



PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 12:43 pm    Post subject: 88 Reply with quote

Just got back from one meeting and waiting on the next to start... Looks like he's lynched, so I won't say anything else. Not that I had much more to say anyway.
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Dragon Phoenix
Judge Doom



PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 12:44 pm    Post subject: 89 Reply with quote

That does it. The dogs have spoken and Loudmouthlee gets kicked out of the kennel. Too bad he was on the town's side. As spike, a paranoid townie, he could have been an asset.... or a liability...

NIGHT FALLS. No more posting in the thread.

Deadline for night choices: Tuesday 9PM GMT. Earlier would be nice.
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Dragon Phoenix
Judge Doom



PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 8:40 pm    Post subject: 90 Reply with quote

DAY 2:
One dead night 1, two dead night 2, extrapolation does not predict a very good spell for the town.... Sam Sheepdog (IS) has been torn apart. One doctor down. And Hong Kong Phooey (rm) is no longer intact as well. You have lost a vigilante too.
Oh well, can't be helped. Sixteen barkers left, nine for a lynch.
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mith
Pitbull of Truth



PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 11:13 pm    Post subject: 91 Reply with quote

Well, bah about LML. I'm having a bad time reading players I haven't played with before lately.

Vote: Mgm. I reread and I think I found what LML was talking about.

Mgm wrote:
LoudmouthLee wrote:
To be honest, RM, This game is seriously a mafia allstar game.

The ONLY person who might have NO clue about Samadhi, IMHO, is Shanter.

As of right now, pick ANY 5 players in the list, and you have a scary mafia group.

With that - Unvote: Tally and Vote: RM

That initial post seems to be some heavy metagaming this early. I don't think it's wise, and it seems awfully scummy.

I agree, that's crap reasoning. The scum kill could've hit a multitude of experienced players. There's no reason to assume a relative new player was involved.


Mgm wrote:
I don't see the sense in attacking ralphmerridew anyway. To me it just seems he was trying to point out the flaws in Jedo's post.

Unvote: Chienfou
Vote:LML
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Talitha
the Judge!



PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 8:44 am    Post subject: 92 Reply with quote

So it looks like we have 2 evil killing groups. Yet both deaths were the same killing method, "torn apart". I don't really know what to make of that.

I'm not sure what I think about Mgm anymore.... there's a few that I'm more suspicious of anyway, and who have said less... so I'll wait a bit before casting my vote today.
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Talitha
the Judge!



PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 8:47 am    Post subject: 93 Reply with quote

On second thoughts
vote: Mackay
I'm getting a totally different vibe than what I got in the last game I played with her.
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Mgm
Roar!



PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 8:53 am    Post subject: 94 Reply with quote

I know what LML was talking about, mith, but you're going to have to spell out how that warrants a vote on me. I don't get it.
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Mackay
Saviour of Spiders



PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 8:58 am    Post subject: 95 Reply with quote

Tally: I suck at the beginnings of games. =] I tend to lurk until I get into the spirit of the game. You'll see the paranoia in a day (mafia day) or so, I suspect. Felicitous
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MadMax
Porro's TIMS



PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 12:47 pm    Post subject: 96 Reply with quote

Talitha; It indeed seems like 2 killing groups..or SK and Mafia.
And how else but tearing up ones enemy with ones teeth can a true canine
kill?

This is bad for the kennel, Doc and Vig in 1 night.

My thought is perhaps IS[Doc] got lucky with his choice night 1.
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Jedo the Jedi
Paragon in Training



PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 1:16 pm    Post subject: 97 Reply with quote

I don't know what to think about this Mgm vote by mith. I don't understand why Mgm deserves it. *shrug*

I think I might go back to my Werebear vote. He hasn't posted but once and in that post he didn't say much. FOS Werebear but it could become a vote very soon.
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Quailman
His Postmajesty



PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 2:16 pm    Post subject: 98 Reply with quote

I, too, need clarification from mith to support his vote. OTOH,

Mackay wrote:
Tally: I suck at the beginnings of games. =] I tend to lurk until I get into the spirit of the game. You'll see the paranoia in a day (mafia day) or so, I suspect. Felicitous


Well, let's get you into the spirit. vote: Mackay Ambiguous Man
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Mgm
Roar!



PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 3:15 pm    Post subject: 99 Reply with quote

Maybe a vote will get Werebear talking.
Vote:Werebear
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Logain
Stretch Armstrong



PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 4:16 pm    Post subject: 100 Reply with quote

vote: Jedo

His first post yesterday seemed like it was almost bait to bring up a lot of discussion and create false suspicions on anyone who commented on it without keeping himself involved saying it was just slightly above a random vote. And after the discussion on Samadhi's death unfolded afterwards, he quietly had nothing more to comment on it.
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mith
Pitbull of Truth



PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 4:29 pm    Post subject: 101 Reply with quote

It's just a complete reversal in what he said. There's not much more to it than that. Mgm is the most suspicious to me at the moment.
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Mackay
Saviour of Spiders



PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 4:45 pm    Post subject: 102 Reply with quote

I don't think it's really a reversal. Mgm said that rm's reasoning sucked, and then he said that it wasn't cause for suspicion.

I tend to agree. rm's post was, what, the second or third in the entire game? He was responding to a post made by Jedo, pointing out the flaw in his reasoning. I don't see how that is cause for suspicion either.

As for voting... I'll vote: Werebear, seeing as I'm the other one on two votes, and the furball isn't talking.
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Mackay
Saviour of Spiders



PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 4:46 pm    Post subject: 103 Reply with quote

Oops, he's on two votes now. One of the bolded statements I saw was an FOS.
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Dragon Phoenix
Judge Doom



PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 4:50 pm    Post subject: 104 Reply with quote

Votecount, 9 to lynch:

Mackay 2 (Talitha, Quailman)
Werebear 2 (Mgm, Mackay)
Mgm 1 (mith)
Jedo 1 (Logain)
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Amb
Amb the Hitched.



PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 9:00 pm    Post subject: 105 Reply with quote

Vote Mackay

Consider this my return vote for yesterdays Extreme Delectation

Plus this day is going nowhere...
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Werebear
Daedalian Member



PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 9:06 pm    Post subject: 106 Reply with quote

Wow, not even 24 hours into the new day, a mere half a page, and I'm being yelled at for not posting. Shall we count the rest of the people who haven't posted? Naah, that's silly. I do have to come in and Vote: s00thsayer... on a hunch.
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Mgm
Roar!



PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 9:14 pm    Post subject: 107 Reply with quote

And how much did you post yesterday?
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Jedo the Jedi
Paragon in Training



PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 9:39 pm    Post subject: 108 Reply with quote

A hunch? That's all you've got? Wow. I think I'm going to go ahead and vote Werebear again because he can't give us anything.
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shanterusan
Daedalian Member



PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 12:24 am    Post subject: 109 Reply with quote

Chienfou hasn't said anything since his "random" votes yesterday. Let's make everyone talk...

Prod/Vote: Chienfou
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ChienFou
Leader of the pack



PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 3:23 am    Post subject: 110 Reply with quote

Apart from my random votes, the only comment I did make was that we have nothing to go on yet. I still think that we have nothing to go on. There are plenty of players who have said nothing since this new grim day for the town dawned, and I can't see any reason to join any bandwagon because they haven't yet posted. I'll keep my fir dry till I've seen a bit more interaction.

Many years ago I used to post as "headless chicken" when the town got silly. It's not yet at that stage, but we're not excelling ourselves are we?

=<Ponders on rolling 2xD4, but decides to wait for a bit.>= By the way, I'm always very careful to make sure my dice rolls are unbiased, so I'll fos anyone who suggests that they're unfair (mathematically).

Anyway, we sold lots of pizza and suchi yesterday, so keep the business rolling in.
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Amb
Amb the Hitched.



PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 4:14 am    Post subject: 111 Reply with quote

I think im beginning to understand why IS mindlessly bandwagoned, with Blah Blah comments....

Can we at least bandwagon someone into role claiming, even if we all then back off.

Its either that or we need to work out another strategy.

Otherwise this game is going to devolve into pure chance, and the sort of chance that mafia can probably stick their mealy hands in and control.
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Amb
Amb the Hitched.



PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 4:16 am    Post subject: 112 Reply with quote

Okay then ... wrong game. IS didnt blah blah in this game, he blah blahed in the other game im in. Bleh Bleh.
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Mackay
Saviour of Spiders



PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 4:23 am    Post subject: 113 Reply with quote

unvote: Werebear I notice more when you're quiet because I always keep an eye out for you, Bear. =] Also, I tend to just listen to who everyone else says is quiet, because I'm too unobservant and am easily distracted by talkative people. Embarrassed

Were I to place another vote, I'd probably follow Werebear's hunch. Hunches are better than semantics.
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sweetwater
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 5:55 am    Post subject: 114 Reply with quote

MadMax, I don't think "IS[Doc] got lucky with his choice night 1". More likely the vigilante, as prudent as he is, didn't target anyone.

L'layne, when you say "we were struck by...", who's "we"? Perhaps you are part of a group? That said, the rest of your post (78) seems to me sensible, so I'm fossing Talitha for accusing you of "looking for any excuse to jump on".

And Mackay, you're saying Samadhi gets "attacked by newer players", but your voting pattern is inconsistent with your observation. That does not merit a vote yet, but I might change my mind.
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Mackay
Saviour of Spiders



PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 6:09 am    Post subject: 115 Reply with quote

sweetwater wrote:
And Mackay, you're saying Samadhi gets "attacked by newer players", but your voting pattern is inconsistent with your observation. That does not merit a vote yet, but I might change my mind.


Where on earth did I say that?!

I said newer players were just as likely to attack Samadhi as experienced ones.

I also said the "logic" for voting rm yesterday was crap.

I stand by both of those, so what does that tell me... hmmm, that EVERYONE in the town MIGHT be guilty, and that it's better not to post anything of substance at all on day 1, lest you get attacked.

And my voting somehow manages to be inconsistent with this?

Defensive? Maybe. I don't like having words put in my mouth.
OMGUS vote: sweetwater (can we do an OMGUS purely to say OMGUS, rather than as revenge for a vote? I fear I break tradition. =] )
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sweetwater
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 7:02 am    Post subject: 116 Reply with quote

I thought I lifted that verbatim from post #5 in page 1. I didn't intend to put words in your mouth.

After that post, you never made any more reference about Samadhi, and you never said "newer players were just as likely to attack Samadhi as experienced ones", contrary to that statement you just made.

I am not attacking people, but merely trying to weigh their words against their actions to find any inconsistency. In your particular case the inconsistency is that you're voting players who are not "newer".

Also, you're voting me out of spite. Such retaliatory behavior without the slightest benefit of reason works against the town.
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Mackay
Saviour of Spiders



PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 7:46 am    Post subject: 117 Reply with quote

Yes, half of my sentence was lifted verbatim. The "also known" might have been useful, considering the fact that my point was quite obviously that our suspicion should not be limited to the "experienced players". (By the way, I am on the list of "less experienced players" - why would I want to bring suspicion on myself?)

So you have taken a phrase by me out of context and made it mean something it doesn't. That gives me very little reason to unvote you.

sweetwater wrote:
you never said "newer players were just as likely to attack Samadhi as experienced ones", contrary to that statement you just made.
Not verbatim, certainly - seeing as we're all apparently such fans of things being implicitly stated word-for-word without any leeway for rephrasing.

My post that you linked:
Quote:
Samadhi is also known to get attacked by newer players, who find him intimidating.
was in response to this statement by Jedo:
Quote:
I would like to point out that the mafia probably contains experienced players because they attacked Sam who is also an experienced player.


The implication was not that newer players are more likely to attack Samadhi. I never said in post #5, "Jedo, I disagree". I was pointing out that "new" players should not be discounted from suspicion.

I have gone from being annoyed and slightly suspicious at your misinterpretation of my words, to being slightly less annoyed and far more suspicious. My vote stays.

What is detrimental to the town, sweetwater, is people who try to twist the words of others in order to cast suspicion. A misunderstanding is understandable, but this is a concerted effort to incriminate me.
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Mackay
Saviour of Spiders



PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 7:52 am    Post subject: 118 Reply with quote

Feh, that was not very clear.

Jedo said: "I would like to point out that the mafia probably contains experienced players because they attacked Sam who is also an experienced player. "
I responded: "Samadhi is also known to get attacked by newer players, who find him intimidating."

Also being the key word. Also. You know, that part of my sentence you conveniently dropped. I did not say "Samadhi is exclusively known to get attacked by newer players", or anything like. My meaning, which I believe was clear (though we can ask the rest of the town about that), was that killing Samadhi is not exclusively in the realm of experienced players.

The fact that you have twice interpreted my post to mean that I was trying to cast suspicion on that half of the town in which I am included, has led me to believe that you are quite evil, or quite desperate to make me appear so.
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Elayne
*gets sappy with L'lanmal*



PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 11:10 am    Post subject: 119 Reply with quote

Sweetwater: L'layne is the joint identity of L'lanmal and myself.
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Talitha
the Judge!



PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 11:24 am    Post subject: 120 Reply with quote

sweetwater wrote:
the rest of your post (78) seems to me sensible, so I'm fossing Talitha for accusing you of "looking for any excuse to jump on".
Are you trying to tell me that scum don't rub their hands together in glee when they come up with a sensible looking reason to jump on the bandwagon of an innocent?
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