Canine Capers - Game over

[Jedo the Jedi]

True, but he may not believe you to be scum. Let's create a different scenario.

Leo and Mackay are still scum, and Leo suspects amb of being scum. Mackay will kill me and Leo will kill amb, who L'layne unfortunately hid with thinking amb would not be targeted. We are now down to Madmax, Mackay, Talitha and Leo. The townies will want to get rid of Leo knowing he is scum, leaving Mackay wide open with the victory. No lynch is our worst option today. Tomorrow, maybe.

[Mackay]

Might I also add a hearty "d'oh!"

I really thought that the only people opposed to no lynching would be scum. I already suspect amb even further, because I know that if he's scum he would LOVE to see Leo gone so he can kill you free of obstacles.

That is also what makes me worry about L'layne and MadMax, to an extent... though the things which make them more suspect to me are:
- MadMax' claim of naive cop: like I said, I HIGHLY suspect anyone who claims an investigative role, and that one is conveniently useless.
- L'layne's pretty-much-lack of reaction to amb's self-protection claim. Were I a self-protector of sorts, I would certainly be far more suspicious of someone else who claimed to be able to protect themselves. Also, an incredibly easy role claim to make up in retrospect, as one merely has to choose players who were not killed.

[Mackay]

Wrong. Knowing that Leo suspected amb, I would kill Leo.

I'm gone for a bit, but I'm happy to argue more when I return

[Jedo the Jedi]

If you killed Leo knowing that he would target amb, you would seal your own grave by leaving me alive. You don't know whether I would investigate you or amb, and it really wouldn't matter because I would automatically know the alignment of both with you guys both being the only cleared players. (Talitha being a mason.) You, my dear, would have played it very wrong.

Some input on these scenarios would be appreciated. I may be totally wrong, and so could Mackay. Let us know what you guys think.

[L'layne]

We are opposed to no lynch because, as Jedo pointed out, if we have two kill shots to duck, our chances of successfully hiding are lower, ie. the mafia may just get two dead for one shot, never a good thing. Yes, with your way there is a chance that no townies die, but I'd rather sacrifice a townie for a better chance at winning. Jedo apparently feels the same even knowing it's probably him.

Mackay, the more you talk about two mafia and no lynching is a good thing, the more we begin to wonder if there isn't 4 mafia alive with you one of them.

Also, if you check back we have suspected amb for a long time. We just always thought there were others we were better off lynching.

Jedo, we think you have it pretty much right.

[Mackay]

Alright.

I'm happy to lynch scum and all, I just wanted to propose the no lynch at least... the point about having two kills to dodge, though, does make sense.

Are we ready to lynch Leoscum?

[Jedo the Jedi]

Well, I will be checking one of two people tonight and that should tell me who is who. I assume I will not be surviving the night, so don't even think about getting my results. I will be dead and know who is scum and you will be alive and not knowing.

The best of luck to you guys. If you screw it up, well that would suck. But I have faith in you guys.

I will proceed with the best action that I see we can take. vote Leonidas *crosses fingers*

[Mackay]

vote: Leonidas

Why cross your fingers Jedo? Do you not know that he is scum?
*suppresses urge to panic*

[Jedo the Jedi]

I know he is scum because of my results. I'm not so sure if the mod knows though.

[Talitha]

Are we ready to finish Leo off?

I have to say it's looking like I was wrong about amb/dogmatix all along. He's definitely the likeliest last scum from where I sit now.

[Jedo the Jedi]

Are we finishing off Leo? Yes! *faints from anticipation*

[L'layne]

We were rather looking forward to scoffing at Leo's fake data

[L'layne]

/Sigh

Vote: Leonidas

[Jedo the Jedi]

DP probably will not be on until tomorrow, but Leo may not post his results now that he is lynched. *shrug* I'm sorry I ruined your fun.

[Leonidas]

Something I don't understand. You're still not convinced after post 1097? That really baffles me. Anyway - too late for me to write my investigation results. Thanks to the happy few who had actually seen the light.

[Dragon Phoenix]

A growling and kicking Leonidas gets thrown over the fence. One more rotweiler gone.

It is night, get choices in quickly please, preferably before Friday 8PM GMT. If anyone needs an extension, PM me.

[Dragon Phoenix]

Awoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

Townie Snoopy is no more. Mackay is found torn apart.



With five players left, it will take 3 votes to kick a dog out.

[Amb]

Im under no illusions you all think im scum. Im not scum. A bad player perhaps - but not scum. There was only one death last night, and that either means 1 scum is left. Or that a second attacked me. I used my 2nd potion last night.

Vote MadMax

Im sure Jedo will either have investigated me or MadMax, or Jedo is scum and is going to incriminate me. I dont think Jedo is scum, but I guess we will see...

Simple as that.

You lot can decide from there. MadMax is our last scum, unless there are more than 1 left.

[Jedo the Jedi]

I've already cleared Madmax, amb. I got an innocent result.

I actually investigated Mackay last night. Unfortunately, no result. Doesn't really matter, I guess, because amb is the only person left I haven't investigated.

The only problem I have is with the possibility that L'layne and Madmax could be GF. I suppose if they really are, then the town is screwed anyway. *shrug*

[Jedo the Jedi]

Nevermind. I just went back and researched amb's posts. amb has now claimed to have used a grand total of 3 potions when he said he only had 2. He used one up sometime before in the game, claimed to use one the night that I told him to, then claimed to use yet another one last night.

Thanks for playing, Scummy McScumscum, but your time is up.

VOTE AMB

[MadMax]

Jedo's reasoning is correct.

If I (I am not I assure you) or L'ayne are Goddog 3 will fight it out 2morrow.
There was no Goddog for the Rottweillers though.

Assuming there is only 1 bulldog left,
Jedo coming out so profoundly stating that Leo was Mafia
would have been extemely bold if he were not sane cop as claimed.

The only logic in going for Mackay if L'ayne is not Goddog,
is that someone hoped L'ayne was hiding with Mackay.

It seems odds on to vote Amb.
I m not doing so yet.
L'ayne, your point of view?

[Mackay's Angel]

Go town go! *flaps encouragingly*

[edit (I can edit now!) - Also, bah. ]

[Slain Dragon Phoenix]

* snogs Mackay's Angel *

[L'layne]

We are under one of two scenarios:

a) There was 4 mafia in each family plus one traitor. 5 mafia + one traitor is dead, leaving 3 mafia alive out of 5 people.

We know we are innocent. We are confident Talitha is innocent; hence everyone else (Amb, Mad Max and Jedo) must be mafia. That of course would leave the town without any cops at all. If that was true, why wasn't Soothsayer a back up doc instead an over-achiever?

That leads us to believe we are working under scenario b

b) There was 3 mafia in each family plus one traitor. 5 mafia + one traitor is dead, leaving one mafia left alive.

Since the rotweilers had no godfather, there must not be any in the game; therefore Everyone has been cleared by either by a mason or a cop but one:

Vote: Amb

[Amb]

Jedo I never claimed to have used it previously.

[Amb]

Unvote Madmax

[Dragon Phoenix]

Vote count, 3 to kick one out:

amb 2 (Jedo, Llayne)

Not voting: amb, MadMax, Talitha

[Amb]

Jedo, that really hacks me off. I dont mind being accused of being scum. Its part of the game. But to say I have claimed to have used a skill three times when I havent is extremely frustrating and annoying. You say you checked the thread? Well show me what I said... Or are you going to then tell me I used my last potion when you suggested to me that I should (which I ignored, and began thinking of you as potential scum at that point). Or are you more frustrated that a kill didnt go through. The very maddening thing about this is that I thought you were innocent and now Im not sure anymore.

So yes Im annoyed. I want to use stronger words than that. I wont. Gah.

[Talitha]

Will the honour of casting the last vote in the game be mine?

I have faith.

vote:amb

[Amb]

Well done, you finally got me. I really was beginning to think I was Amb the eternal. I played those last 2 days really stupidly and I wish I hadnt posted quite as hard. You live, you learn. (I really didnt say id used the potion 3 times but in the end the argument meant nothing)

But are there more of me? Or are there more of them? And where are the GodFathers? I guess thats up to the mod to let you know...

[Talitha]

Heh, I was bamboozled by my fellow kiwi. Everyone else wanted to lynch you.

Not my finest game, but living to the end as a claimed mason is kinda neat.

[Amb]

Did I say the game was over :-p

[Talitha]

Ssssh scum, you're lynched

[Jedo the Jedi]

Even though amb is lynched, I want to really seal the kill and prove amb wrong.

If you look at post 1027, amb says that he has only one out of his original two potions left. Fast forward to post 1055 and amb says 'Okay-Jedo called for me to use my power overnight' followed by something about targeting someone who has used up their skill (amb).

Then, amb comes out today and claims to have used his final potion. Too bad he already stated that he was "used up".

EAT IT, AMB! YOU LYING SCUM!

[Amb]

See this is what I mean....

"'Okay-Jedo called for me to use my power overnight' followed by something about targeting someone who has used up their skill (amb). "

I didnt say Id used my skill. I was using your call as an argument against you. Not admitting to having used it. I will however note that Jedo is good at misusing quotes to his own ends for any future mafia games :p

[Jedo the Jedi]

[Amb]

...Okay - Jedo called for me to use my skill overnight.

...This means, they could get an attack in on mafia while the other group potentially jumps in on me who has used his skill. Its a strategic move. And one thats likely to look 'Townie' because of the strain I have been under to prove myself. If it doesnt, they still get to buy the votes of 'known' townies who are convinced of my scum factor (eg Mackay)

As part of your plan for making me waste my skill. I still never said I had actually used it. Should I have put the used in quotes to make it more obvious, or should I be trying sell you some extra brain cells via the internet :-p

I wouldnt have thought id have to defend against a vote like that...

[Jedo the Jedi]

Wow. You really are going to ride this out until the mod says you are scum. That is something. Kudos for your perseverence.

As for playing this evidence off, I hope you know that you really have no base. It was pretty explicit. Nice try though.

[Dragon Phoenix]

He is scum. One more pitbull down.

Night falls. Send choices before Monday 8PM GMT please.


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Just kidding. Congratulations town!

[Samadhi]

Yay!