The Maltese Pigeon: Mafia wins.

[Amb]

Im one vote away from being lynched. I dont need justification.

[Pooky]

I had the Maltese Pigeon with me on the day that Dan said I had it,

It was stolen the night afterwards.

[Amb]

Yes - but the problem is that I think you and Dan are the scum together. There in lies the problem.

I dont think there are two roleblockers, as much as I want(ed) to. Your claim is in depth, but the singing bit seems extreme.

[Pooky]

What singling bit?

[Amb]

Hang on?

How about a gambit.

Lets assume a lynch of a townie means the mafia have won by numbers. Okay there are special roles that might stave this off, but the key word is might.

Im one vote away.

If there is even one mafia not voting me, then it would be stupid for them not to be because it wins them the game in all probability. And that means those not voting me at this time are probably not scum whoever they may be. ( I havent checked )

This is a gambit.

Vote Amb

Goodnight, town. May you win well.

[mudbuck]

I declare amb as mentally insane.

[LoudmouthLee]

Please tell me this isn't happening.
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-LmL

I'm sorry. I have no desire to talk to you.

[The Cheshire Man]

It is.

Day is now done. Lynch scene to follow shortly.
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[The Cheshire Man]

As afternoon wore into evening, the sun beat down on San Francisco like an Italian grandmother beating on her son-in-law. The shadows grew longer. And the minutes. We sat in silence, then a stray word or glance would tip them over the edge, and they'd crack like Humpty Dumpty. Then it would be all six of us yelling, and then more silence. More pressure. And longer shadows.

A lot had happened in just a few days. Five friends, five innocent friends, dead. And we'd killed two of them ourselves. I guess you can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs; but still, why'd it have to be such a big omelette? At least the swooping shadow was gone. We thought. Could be a ruse, a way to make us think we'd won before he or she or it tightened the rope around our necks. Josef Tall was dead and gone, leaving just two of the DiCaffinati boys alive. Trying to figure out which of the half dozen were the bad eggs...

Sorry, I had deviled eggs for dinner, and there weren't enough. I have trouble with analogies when I'm hungry.

Anyhow, by the time the sun touches the edge of the bay we've been through a lot of discussion. We've gone from excited and scared to exhausted and scared. Some of us even seem like different people. But three of us agree: the guy in the robe, the one ambling about the back of the room all day, has got our suspicions piqued. We think he's a DiCaffinati boy.

"Oh, you think I'm guilty, do you?" he asks as he stands up on the counter. "Maybe I was an idiot in the past, but I figured out a way to prove my innocence beyond a shadow of a doubt!"

"Oh yeah? How?" the guy next to me asks.

"Like this!" the robed wonder shouts as he wraps the fan cord around his neck. Before we can stop him, he's jumped. His body jerks out into our arms, convulses once and then goes limp. His feet would have hit the ground if he hadn't tucked his legs up; a cannonball dive into death.

As we unwrap the cord and lay him out on the ground, a few things become apparent.

The first is that he snapped his neck. No way to revive him.

The second is that he is not a he. He is a she. A tomboy to be sure, and slightly masculine of face, but still a she.

The third is that she is Esther Keyes, the local locksmith ever since her father passed away. She could unlock anything. She could also lock anything. She could not only lock it, she could jimmy it so you couldn't unlock it, not even if the bolt-switch was on your side. She could jimmy a door so that if you tried to break it down you'd just bust your shoulder. She could nail a penny to a window so that it would open for air but not enough to let a person squeeze in or out. Very popular with parents who had teenaged daughters.

Apparently, Esther had been locking the people she expected of evil into their homes, trying to keep them from getting out at night and killing people.

"That was stupid of her," said the guy next to me.

"Yeah, probably," I agreed. "But that's a better death than we face."

"Let's enjoy some peaceful sleep while we still can," said the guy leaning on the counter. "And let's all hope it's the kind we can wake from."

Jedo the Jedi, a.k.a. Jedo, a.k.a. amb, a.k.a. Esther Keyes, townie Locksmith (roleblocker), has been lynched.

It is now Night. Please send your choices. There is still a chance that the town will win.
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[The Master]

I am so sorry guys. I have been just incredibly busy lately and totally forgot about this game part way through my vacation back in June. Work and other things have left my random internet time to a minimum and I really have not been on the GL in a month. I hope I did not mess up the game too badly. Again, I apologize for such awful mafia game playing and any problems or boredom my inactivity might have caused. I noticed I was replaced, that is fine and probably for the best. If you want me back to finish, let me know.
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[The Cheshire Man]

I get up bright and early the next day, wondering if it's even worth it, if I shouldn't just stay in bed and wait for the DiCaffinati boys to get around to me. I get dressed, then sneak out the fire escape to avoid the landlord. I walk to the cafe, feeling like I'm walking to my own execution, but not knowing where else I could go. How do you survive in this world if no one can quite see you?

I turn the corner to see four very surprised people waiting for me.

"We...we thought you were dead, that it was all over...I mean, when we were all here and you didn't show up..." one of the guys manages to stammer out.

"I didn't think I'd see all four of you, either. Praise the Lord!" I shout.

"And pass the ammunition," another one of the guys finishes for me. "There are still two of us here in dire need of a lynching."

"Agreed," I say. "Let's get voting."

It is now Day 5. There were no kills last night.

There are five players alive. It is three to lynch, two to lynch at a deadline.
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[mudbuck]

Thanks be praised! I was saved last night by the MP! Unfortunately, I lost the MP in the process.

Let's start where amb left off.

Vote Dan

[Dan]

Thank you mudbuck, for ruining my only chance to prove my innocence. The reason I didn't tell anyone where the pidgeon was yesterday was because I HAD IT.

I picked it up at esme's house night four, and gave it to mudbuck night 5, hoping to either save you, or give you bonus protection abilities. I figured there had to be at least one doc, so I thought you were the most trustworthy.

Oh, and hey everybody, here's a big surprise: LML is innocent. I got his message. All he did was call me and Pooky scum.

He's half right. This game would not have two role-blockers. Vote: Pooky
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[Pooky]

Liar Liar Pants on FIRE!

vote Dan

Our clear scumbucket buddy here.

[Dan]

Um, how?

You claimed role-blocker. We already had a role-blocker. How can you possibly suggest that there are two in a game this small? You are clearly mafia.

I'm one away from lynching by the way, don't vote me until we've had some proper discussion.

I may look suspicious, but Pooky is by far worse. If you think I'm mafia, go ahead a lynch me tomorrow, but why am I in line in front of Pooky?
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[Pooky]

Dan, your only argument against me is this thing where you suggest that there HAS to be ONLY one of every role, that there can't be 2 OF SOMETHING unless it's mafia and that your INCREDIBLY UNLIKELY role of Pigeon Purifier/Transporter who is actually a catholic is obviously good.

Frankly speaking I find your completely fictional role to be unlikely and there is no reason there can't be a second roleblocker.

That's not good logic, that's not good play.

[LoudmouthLee]

Let's make this simple.

We have 5 left. 3 to lynch.

I'm innocent. So is Mudbuck. (PS: ROCK ON, MUDBUCK!)

That means 2 scum in 3 players.

Unheard Voice, Pooky and Dan.

Hey, Mudbuck.. I recommend unvoting for now. Lets hear what these guys have to say.
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-LmL

I'm sorry. I have no desire to talk to you.

[LoudmouthLee]

Wait wait wait.

MUDBUCK! UNVOTE NOW! DAMNIT!
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-LmL

I'm sorry. I have no desire to talk to you.

[mudbuck]

Unvote

[Dan]

[Dan]

PS Thanks for getting the unvote LML, if a townie gets lynched we still have a shot, we'd have to go another night iwthout someone dying.

BTW, Mudbuck, who did you protect?
Unheard Voice, who did you "track". This probably won't give us any new information.
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[mudbuck]

I protected LML.

[Pooky]

I refuse to accept the fact that you are trying to base EVERYTHING on tring to "outguess" the moderator, it's damn stupid play, this game is NOT based on checking if you have one of everything or two of everything.

Why are there 2 roleblockers in the game? Maybe to give the mafia an edge when the town decides to go all stupid wishywashy guessing and decids to string one up because there's 2 roleblockers and when they find out the strung up an ACTUAL roleblocker, they decide to lynch the other real roleblocker because they think they can outguess the mod on what the setup of this game is.

If you honestly think this game which had 2 powerful protown replacement players is going to be easily guessable by the town since the moderator decided this game would be one role of everything, you are either the laziest mafia player possible, or lying scum.

I can believe in Mudbuck being a confirmed innocent(as there should be at least ONE doctor, unless the mod were oh so cruel), but I do not see why Lee is in any way a confirmed innocent.

I know that HE knows if he is an innocent but that by no means puts him as innocent or not.

If he and Dan are both scum, I can easily see them deciding to pull this sort of gambit to win over our trust.

[Dan]

[Dan]

And I keep messing up my quote tags...
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[LoudmouthLee]

Ok..

Pooky, UV and Dan. Night actions, please. Everyone, unvote until we talk. That includes you, Pooky.
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-LmL

I'm sorry. I have no desire to talk to you.

[mudbuck]

I'm gone for a week of camp starting tomorrow. I've forgot all about it.

[The Cheshire Man]

mudbuck has requested that I give LoudmouthLee control over mudbuck's vote until mudbuck returns. After carefully considered whether or not I can grant this request, I have finally decided that doing so would not seriously alter the outcome of the game. Therefore, LoudmouthLee now has the ability to decide mudbuck's vote, with or without his own. mudbuck will not automatically vote the same as LML. Instead, to use mudbuck's vote LML must post:

mudbuck vote: target
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[The Cheshire Man]

[Dan]

I think I already gave all my night actions.

To summarize-

Night 1: Check Unheard Voices house. Nothing
Night 2: Check Samadhi's house. Nothing
Night 3: Check LoudmouthLee's house. Nothing
Night 4: Check Esme's house. FOUND THE PIDGEON

Where the Pidgeon was:

Night 1: IS's house
Night 2: Mgm's house
Night 3: The Master's house (please confirm this)
Night 4: Esme's house

My actions on Night 5 were already provided. I gave the Pidgeon to mudbuck, but he has apparently lost it since then, which I find odd. But then again, I didn't know what would happen if I gave it to someone except that it would benefit them.

I think this might be a device on the mod's part to keep me from controlling all the movements of the Pidgeon. If mudbuck kept the Pidgeon, I could have gone to his house tonight and gotten it back, and the next night, given it back to him, etc.

BTW, the clue that tipped me off to searching esme's house on Night 4 was post 219:

[Pooky]

As the roleblocker, I refuse to claim my night action before all other players have claimed theirs for OBVIOUS reasons.

[Dan]

If it turns out that someone says they were "blocked" I don't think it's to your credit since they could be mafia with you. This game is almost over, such desperate measures could work. All you need is one more innocent lynched and you win (unless we go another night without kills).

*puts money on Unheard Voice*
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[UnheardVoice]

*puts money on Dan*

But I'll need to pick up my earnings later. Right now I think Pooky is under the most suspicion, for me. Last night I tracked Pooky, and he went to mudbuck's house.

This is probably enough to determine cause-and-effect, here. But I have a thought. What if Pooky is telling the truth and mudbuck is mafia and lying? (This is just hypothetical.) If Pooky is a role-blocker, he could've blocked mafia mudbuck from completing his lynch last night, and the results would be the same as they are now.

LML, you said that mudbuck is considered innocent in your eyes, to the point where you don't even question it. What justification do you have that this is true? Is there any solid evidence that you have, or is this guesswork about the mechanics of this game?

[LoudmouthLee]

Mudbuck is innocent, it has to be, that he's the only reason the game is still going.

No night kill = doc protection, normally... but the doc was outed. So, the mafia would just kill the doc and the game would be over.

As of right now, Pooky went to Mudbuck's house makes sense.

Pooky tried to kill mudbuck last night.

Here's how the game will play.

I want the 3rd vote on Pooky. I say he's the correct lynch. Mudbuck will probably die tomorrow, and I'll be left to pick between UV and Dan (and I have a gut feeling I know who's lying)

So... Everyone, act as the town and begin to vote Pooky, but please, allow me to get the last vote on pooky.
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I'm sorry. I have no desire to talk to you.

[Pooky]

Mudbuck, UV, I am telling this to you because I am quite certain that Lee and Dan are our last 2 scum

I am damn sure of it, and I only ask that you discard whatever prejudices you might already possess against me because of lame metagaming(1 of every role is somewhat unbalanced against the mafia, incredibly so, I believe the mod decided to roll dice on which role to put 2 of just so the town couldn't have an overwhelming advantage on the late massclaim.)

Both Lee and Dan have claimed incredibly crap roles that are pretty much bizarre and outlandish.

Lee and Samadhi were both very instrumental in the gathering and the execution of the day1/day2 bandwagons that led to this current situation.

When the Mafia were moving towards the sweep, Lee made a move that showed his gutso and smoothness by outting his scumpartner in a way that was unpredictable, whether they planned it or not, I don't know but Lee's move was something damn good. He managed to generate an artificial schism between him and his fellow scumbandwagonner that had pretty much destroyed the town day1/day2.

He realized that people were going to be taking a look at the day1/day2 bandwagons abd looking for suspicious activity now since day3 there were still no scum down, as a result he decided to prempt the town by making a huge brass balls move by outting his fellow scum to earn the trust of the town.

I'll be the first to admit he had me fooled silly, but frankly now that everything is in the open, it's clear to me(since i'm innocent, that Lee and Dan are our last two scum)

I blocked mudbuck because I suspected him of being scum, and if he was he would be the one with the least probability of receiving my block.

Mudbuck, UV, if either of you place a vote against me, you will have handed this game to the scum, I've played my role as damned well as I possibly could've, and the sole responsibility would be on the hands of you two to make the correct choice here.

Lee's played a damn good game, compared to Dan who has been slipping up scum tells all over the place.

If there is any flaw in my logic, please point it out and I will answer as best I can.

Lee, you have my congragulations in advance, it looks as if the town has been thoroughly duped by your smoothtalk and I doubt I will be able to turn them to see the light.

Dan, you're awful, you're damn lucky you have Lee for your partner, no hard feelings though.

UV, Mudbuck, I won't hold it against you if you make the wrong decision, I only hope that you give my words a chance instead of blindly following that brass balled smoothtalker Lee, he can be quite convincing and I could see myself falling for his crap if I were in your shoes.

With Love,
Pooky

[Dan]

[Dan]

Oh lord. I need to use the preview button.

*request permission to fix those tags, or perhaps have a board mod do it*


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[Pooky]

My point is that this game would be WAY unbalanced if there really was ONLY ONE OF EACH ROLE. BALANCE DOES NOT MEAN PERFECT SYMMETRY THAT THE TOWN CAN USE!! BALANCE MEANS THE GAMESETUP IS HARD FOR THE TOWN TO GUESS!!!

I have a mountain of reasons why dan's been full of complete crap this whole game and my only question now is whether it's Lee or Mudbuck who's his scumbucket partner.

When did you get the pigeon from Esme's house?

Why didn't the mafia who killed Esme take it from her house?

Why didn't the Pigeon protect Esme from the Mafia nightkill?(If it had to be purified first before protown players could use it, the same restriction shouldn't apply to the Serial Killer should it?)

Why didn't u try to pick it up from Pooky(The Master)'s house night 4?

If you picked up the Pigeon Night 5, then when did you spend time purifying it? Do you really expect us to believe that you managed to go to someone's house, then go purify it, then go to someone else's house and give it to them all on the same night?(and the pigeon arrives BEFORE the mafia make their nightkill so the player is saved, what the !@#$ were the mafia doing why you were picking up the pigeon and purifying it? drinking liquor in the freaking bar and stuffing their italian mouths full of pasta?)

I know for damn well that you are scum, the only question is whether it's you and Mudbuck or you and Lee.

I realized last night that the fact that the Mod decided to double a common role could mean he also decided not to have a common role in the game, it's fishy why our "doctor" is still alive and I can see the mafia play after having their shooter unexpectedly blocked by moi to be to make up an outlandish story that doesn't make logical sense in order to cover up their clear scuminess.

Either way the clear scum here is dan, I believe the best plan right now is for us to lynch him, I will roleblock mudbuck again at night, if I am killed, that will make him a confirmed innocent, if he is killed, then the mafia will have at best a draw due to roleblocker/scum lock and at worst a loss if we get the 50/50 right.

Bah, I'm putting too much work and effort into a game with a buncha people who don't care enough to reason with me.

I'll probably get lynched by these people and the scum will win too,

And on crap reasonining too that has nothing to do with my actions in game and everything to do with scum trying to use modguessing to guide townies who don't know any better because they barely bother to read/write anyway.

Lee, if you are scum in this, congrats again,
But if you're town and I was right on the money with the Mudbuck block and I gave u another chance and you spit on it,
Imsa gonna be really really ticked at you.
*so angry at the world*

[Pooky]

Bleh I regret typing that,

I will be perfectly happy with you guys even if you make the wrong decision here,

Magical Bears don't hold grudges.

Though you'd be disregarding the mountain of evidence against Dan to vote against Pooky based on a "THERE HAS TO BE ONE OF EVERYTHING" idea that is completely unproven and silly.

Pooky will still not hold a grudge against you, Pooky's tea plays a flavorful melody in his nose and the sunrise this morning was spectacular.

I think I'll go walk on my grass now.

[Dan]

You post is so riddled with untruths and misconceptions...