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Olde Mafia (Bad Cop Wins!)
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LoudmouthLee
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 5:21 pm    Post subject: 241 Reply with quote

Honestly, Persona, why would I have killed Samadhi if I were scum? Answer: There is NO reason at all. He was dead set for voting you, and if I would have killed Ctorj, I would have coasted to a victory.

The answer is, of course, that I'm not scum, and you're results are absolutely screwy. Sorry about that. I realize that my cop play has been scummy, but at the same token, it's rough for me to figure out what's going on when all I get are innocents.

But think about the kill... If I were scum, in a million years, I wouldn't have killed Samadhi.

That means, someone else did, and I'm willing to bet it's the false claiming doctor.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 2:58 pm    Post subject: 242 Reply with quote

mudbuck wrote:
You awake to see Hagfy dead. He was a townie.

It's day 6. 3 to lynch.


Persona, this is the only fact that matters. Someone killed that night. If you look at the top of the post, it says July 26. I did not join until I posted to mudbuck on August 1 for a replacement. So who did the killing? LML conveniently never addresses this. All LML is doing is trying to use the mafia/notfia labels to his advantage. You agreed that this was fishy as well!
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Let's combine this with the fact that Da5id was strangled, NOT shot. This leads to a single Notfia, that could have up to 2 kills a night, so long as 2 of them were alive (say), and semi-randomly selected between Shot and Strangle.

More to the point, I can't believe that Sycko was around to make the Hagfy nightkill. LmL, you're looking very scummy to me.

He NEVER addresses the kill in his response. He even uses Sycko's old posts against me. Like I know what Sycko was thinking when he posted that. The choice is very obvious. LoudmouthLee is scum.

Vote: LML Die scum, die!
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 4:06 pm    Post subject: 243 Reply with quote

Ctorj wrote:
mudbuck wrote:
You awake to see Hagfy dead. He was a townie.

It's day 6. 3 to lynch.


Persona, this is the only fact that matters. Someone killed that night. If you look at the top of the post, it says July 26. I did not join until I posted to mudbuck on August 1 for a replacement. So who did the killing? LML conveniently never addresses this. All LML is doing is trying to use the mafia/notfia labels to his advantage. You agreed that this was fishy as well!
Persona wrote:
Let's combine this with the fact that Da5id was strangled, NOT shot. This leads to a single Notfia, that could have up to 2 kills a night, so long as 2 of them were alive (say), and semi-randomly selected between Shot and Strangle.

More to the point, I can't believe that Sycko was around to make the Hagfy nightkill. LmL, you're looking very scummy to me.

He NEVER addresses the kill in his response. He even uses Sycko's old posts against me. Like I know what Sycko was thinking when he posted that. The choice is very obvious. LoudmouthLee is scum.

Vote: LML Die scum, die!


Don't be fooled.I'll just thow some more info here.

Ctorj claimed "Townie-Doc". Well, here's a few ideas.. just in case you're thinking in a different direction.

-If no night choice is sent in, especially from the mafia, a random choice is sometimes made (and is usually the worst possible choice a-la the mod)

-What Ctorj is claiming is that he's a Townie-Doc. He made a mistake, and he's trying to get away with it. He's just referencing one kill, that could have been a random kill assigned by the mod!

Ultimately, the choice is yours, Persona. Strength of Arguement here is important.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 4:13 pm    Post subject: 244 Reply with quote

That's what it said in my pm from, the mod LML. Also, where did this random choice bit come from? I see this as a last minute desperate attempt to do something productive. Enough with your lies and imaginary random killings from nowhere.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 4:16 pm    Post subject: 245 Reply with quote

I just noticed this...

LoudmouthLee wrote:
Ultimately, the choice is yours, Persona. Strength of Arguement here is important.


Stregth of Argument? What about the FACTS that you are blantantly ignoring?? (By the way, you mispelled argument)
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 4:17 pm    Post subject: 246 Reply with quote

Ctorj wrote:
That's what it said in my pm from, the mod LML. Also, where did this random choice bit come from? I see this as a last minute desperate attempt to do something productive. Enough with your lies and imaginary random killings from nowhere.


I'm just giving what Mods (like DP and the such) do. There are other possibilities, too!

I'm just saying, since you voted for me, I'm [b]positive/b] that you're scum now, not Persona. Before there may have been a twinge iof questioning, but you voted directly for me... I'm a cop.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 4:20 pm    Post subject: 247 Reply with quote

Who's still ignoring the facts, acting scummy like crazy and trying to use crap logic (TM) to weasel his way out of a sticky situation.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 5:04 pm    Post subject: 248 Reply with quote

So... let's look at the method of kill... Strangulation.

Mgm (townie) - strangled night 1
Jedo the Jedi (townie) - strangled night 2
UnheardVoice (townie) - strangled night 3
Samadhi Da5id (cop) - strangled night 7

Doesn't this time frame coincide with Sycko / Ctorj?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 5:05 pm    Post subject: 249 Reply with quote

Ctorj wrote:
I just noticed this...

LoudmouthLee wrote:
Ultimately, the choice is yours, Persona. Strength of Arguement here is important.


Stregth of Argument? What about the FACTS that you are blantantly ignoring?? (By the way, you mispelled argument)


Misspell and mistype are two different things Cannibal
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:45 pm    Post subject: 250 Reply with quote

A few observations for both of you.

1) I've not played in many mafia, and certainly never gotten this late in the game, where mafia losing interest is a real possibility. Ctorj, how many games have you played in, without having seen an acknowledged random mod Mafia kill?

2) I'll be checking in again sometime tomorrow, probably. You two seem to be doing a good job of cross-examining when I'm not around to check up on you, so I'll let that continue with a nice organic discussion. Oh, and I've decided to become a corrupt cop, so bribes are certainly accepted!
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 2:39 pm    Post subject: 251 Reply with quote

Persona wrote:
A few observations for both of you.

1) I've not played in many mafia, and certainly never gotten this late in the game, where mafia losing interest is a real possibility. Ctorj, how many games have you played in, without having seen an acknowledged random mod Mafia kill?

2) I'll be checking in again sometime tomorrow, probably. You two seem to be doing a good job of cross-examining when I'm not around to check up on you, so I'll let that continue with a nice organic discussion. Oh, and I've decided to become a corrupt cop, so bribes are certainly accepted!

1) I don't know the number, but I know I'm in a lot of games currently. I've never been in one with a random mod kill. I lean against that because the mod did abandon the game after the kill seeing as no one was playing. It's a possibility, but I think even you know that it is a small possibility. However, it is a higher possibility that LML did the kill and is now saying that a mod did the kill.

2) Please expound further on the corrupt cop thing. Is it a joke or are you serious? I didn't know you had that option.

LML wrote:
So... let's look at the method of kill... Strangulation.
Mgm (townie) - strangled night 1
Jedo the Jedi (townie) - strangled night 2
UnheardVoice (townie) - strangled night 3
Samadhi Da5id (cop) - strangled night 7

If I may fill in the gaps you so conveniently forgot about. (Man, you really love to leave out facts)

The Mod, mudbuck wrote:
esme (townie) - shot night 3
Captain Planet (townie) - injected day 3
Quagmire (townie) - shot night 4
Hagfy (townie) - shot night 6


Persona wrote:
Let's combine this with the fact that Da5id was strangled, NOT shot. This leads to a single Notfia, that could have up to 2 kills a night, so long as 2 of them were alive (say), and semi-randomly selected between Shot and Strangle.

More to the point, I can't believe that Sycko was around to make the Hagfy nightkill. LmL, you're looking very scummy to me.


As I said before Persona, you got it right.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 3:25 pm    Post subject: 252 Reply with quote

Careful there Ctorj, you're hurting your case again. Don't lump the Injection into it, that was a lynching day kill, I believe.

And it's basically a joke, yes. I'm on a working vacation, too relaxed to do such dutiful town things as re-read the thread or spend much time thinking about this.

LmL: You say you'd never kill Samadhi. Why would Ctorj?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 3:43 pm    Post subject: 253 Reply with quote

Persona wrote:
Careful there Ctorj, you're hurting your case again. Don't lump the Injection into it, that was a lynching day kill, I believe.

And it's basically a joke, yes. I'm on a working vacation, too relaxed to do such dutiful town things as re-read the thread or spend much time thinking about this.

LmL: You say you'd never kill Samadhi. Why would Ctorj?


Easy. Samadhi pegged you as the scum. (You're a target.)
You, at first, pegged ME as the scum (I'm a target)

The one cop who slid under that radar was Samadhi, making him the logical target.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 4:13 pm    Post subject: 254 Reply with quote

Bahhhh!! Sorry...didn't see the injection thing. My bad.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 7:02 am    Post subject: 255 Reply with quote

This has felt like a fairly capricious game. Lynches have been denied and reinstated. Mafia weren't supposed to be killed. Abandonment notices have been stated and denied. So, as much as I appreciate the drama over the last day, I'll vote capriciously as well.

Basically, I think I'd rather see LmL in a solo win than to share the win with ultimately Johnny-come-lately Ctorj. LmL came back to the game, and I think he deserves the win just for helping to keep it alive. If I get to share it, all the better. I'm sorry that my first Mafia endgame came during a vacation, where I couldn't give it the effort it deserved. Thank you all.

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LoudmouthLee
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 7:29 am    Post subject: 256 Reply with quote

Well, you were screwed, because we were both scum.

I didn't kill Samadhi, but I was the serial killer.

Whenever I killed, I came up as guilty, whenever I didn't, I came up as clean.

Ctorj must have killed Samadhi last night,
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 12:04 pm    Post subject: 257 Reply with quote

Go scum!! Enthusiastic Grin
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 10:05 pm    Post subject: 258 Reply with quote

The salty air once again wrapped around Mayor M. Buck. He shivered with sudden distaste. What is it now? he thought impatiently as he watched the window at the cold, grey world that laid outside. Ctorj was being executed. Is it over? Is it finally over, when almost everyone had sacrificed their lives for me?

Buck sat down at his desk, now more focused than ever on his paperwork. Tourism was dead zero, and the town's economy couldn't be even more in the slumps. He didn't know that it all wouldn't matter soon after deafening footsteps in the hallway grew louder and closer.

Persona crashed through the door, out of breath, but still with all her might running toward the mayor's desk. "Mayor!" she panted, "You can't believe this, but LoudmouthLee! He's..."

Then at the next moment there was a loud gunshot that rang across the room, and she collasped onto his desk. Behind her was a man, obviously someone he had known.

"Mister Coolage!"

It was definately Robert E. Coolage. He had a sinister smile across the face that was once LoudmouthLee's.

Buck scowled. "I had discharged you many years ago! Why have you ever returned?"

He approached casually. "Revenge is sweet, isn't it. And now that there is no one to stop me, it is only sweeter."

The last words Buck said was "You sadist."
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Congradulations, LoudmouthLee. You've won!
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>>>Quack (SK who looked innocent. Strangles with the stithoscope.)
Sycko/Ctorj

>>>bad cop (SK plus Cop who was innocent "until proven guilty." He couldn't shoot the other cops unless if it was necessary to end the game.)
LoudmouthLee

>>>good cops (Cops. All three cops knew each other.)
Samadhi/Da5id
Persona

>>>mafia (Docs who looked guilty. They knew each other.)
Internet Stranger
Leonidas
The Cheshire Man
The Master

>>>townies (Vanillas who didn't know what the crap was going on.)
UnheardVoice
esme
captain planet
Quagmire
Mgm
Jedo the Jedi
Hagfy
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Ending notes:

The two people who didn't confirm in the beginning of the game were a Quack and a Mafia. The two quacks knew each other. Obviously, the game would have been done much quicker if Jadesmar had ever confirmed.

When the last mafia was lynched and I told everyone that the town still had a chance, I did this on the basis that Sycko, the Quack, wasn't responding. This soon changed when the town demanded a replacement.

During the final day with Ctorj (Quack), LML (Bad Cop), and Persona (Good Cop), Ctorj would had won if LML was lynched, LML would win if Ctorj was lynched, and Persona would have won if there was no lynch and the two antagonists targeted each other the following night.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 2:09 am    Post subject: 259 Reply with quote

Dang, so close.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 2:29 am    Post subject: 260 Reply with quote

And yet no one believed us when two mafia came forward the first night.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 6:29 am    Post subject: 261 Reply with quote

The Cheshire Man wrote:
And yet no one believed us when two mafia came forward the first night.


I did Revenge most foul! That's why I killed you Revenge most foul!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 7:13 am    Post subject: 262 Reply with quote

Congrats LML!
Now who killed me night 1? I need some revenge myself.
As they say: Revenge is sweet...
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 11:45 am    Post subject: 263 Reply with quote

Very frustrating, very frustrating.

Being lynched as a pro-town mafioso hurts. Dispirited
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 12:11 pm    Post subject: 264 Reply with quote

The Cheshire Man wrote:
And yet no one believed us when two mafia came forward the first night.


I did ...
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