Olde Mafia (Bad Cop Wins!)

[LoudmouthLee]

[Da5id]

ctorj: Here's the thing. We *KNOW* we're all cops because the mod told us so. My only worry has been from the start that one of us is bad. So his claim is not "convenient."

As for my results I've also only gotten innocent. But then I've only targetted innocent people (assuming persona is innocent). Which is actually annoying because I could swear I'd gotten a guilty but my (sam's) inbox and sentbox are all too recent. mudbuck did send me (Da5id) the results though which made me change my mind on what I was. I just have to assume he's got the right info.

[Da5id]

LML: How do we explain two night deaths? The Master was a vigilante?

[Ctorj]

Then if one of the 3 cops remaining can see my role (I don't know if that's possible) they will see that I am a doctor.

[Ctorj]

Just a thought: Is it possible for there be a cop traitor? You know...like someone who is a cop but is really scum? That's the only think I can think of.
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[LoudmouthLee]

[Da5id]

I highly doubt LML is scum. If one of the cops is, my money is on Persona.

But NO LYNCH gets us nowhere unless we're told (in a mod post) that a kill was blocked. That increases our odds considerably. However, I do agree on proceeding with caution.

Unvote: (not sure if I was voting)

[Da5id]

[Ctorj]

How about we go back and use some logic here:

Night 4: Townie Quagmire dies...Sycko already abandoned the game at that point.
Night 5: Townie Hagfy dies..I haven't come in yet so we know there's someone else doing kills.

At this point we need to decide if Persona is the cop/traitor, right Da5id?
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[Da5id]

Well, not exactly. We need to determine whether you're scum, or persona is.

[LoudmouthLee]

[mudbuck]

Okay, if that got you guys talking, game unabandoned.

[Persona]

Gah, I see not having internet access until late will be a problem again, if so much happens while I'm at work.

[Persona]

This is my first Mafia endgame, so I'm still going through the basic logic of who lynches/nightkills who when to win. I'll just point out that we haven't seen any confirmed Notfia kills. If instead there were two Notfia, then a nolynch would hand them the win. I'd be very surprised if there really was a Notfia of one.

[Da5id]

If I didn't investigate IS (I thought I did, but mudbuck says I didn't ~shrug) then I can't be a shooting cop.

[Da5id]

[Da5id]

[Persona]

Upon further reflection, unless one of us really does have a night kill role, then there can't be 2 Notfia. If there were, then mod's comment that Town still has a chance would be wrong. They lynch someone at sunset, fry the other person overnight, and they win. Basically, I'm back to thinking there's only one Notfia, and the dual kills were coming from Mafia and Notfia each night? Is that consistent?

[Da5id]

Yes. Notfia shoots and mafia strangles.

[Persona]

Right now, I'm about 50% LmL, 35% Ctorj, and 15% Da5id. I'm pretty ok with a no lynch, and a near-random protection from Ctorj. Considering if I'm alive after a random lynch, we have 2 out of 3 of losing.

[Da5id]

A no lynch would tell us nothing.

[Persona]

True. But it would also narrow each of the surviving town people to having to choose between 2 options, only one of which is correct. As opposed to a lynch now, which would choose between 1 possibility of winning and 2 of losing.

[Da5id]

Hmmm, ok.

Vote: Nolynch

[Ctorj]

So that's our plan..I'll protect Persona and Persona votes No Lynch and that'll be night. My only problem with that is that whoever the bad guy is will go after any of us ensuring a kill. (unless we have a role-blocker among us.) What if I pick a person to protect at random to keep the killer guessing? I'll do whatever you guys agree to. I do also agree that LML is the most scummiest at this point.
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[LoudmouthLee]

I have no problem. Who should I check? It'll probably be an innocent result anyway, but... maybe something happens to others while we view them?
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I'm sorry. I have no desire to talk to you.

[LoudmouthLee]

[Ctorj]

Let me rephrase...I didn't get the PM to sub in for Sycko from the mod until after these events occurred. Does that make sense now? If you don't believe me, then check the post where the mod asks for a replacement and you'll see that the times do coincide.

Are you done trying to lynch me LML? At this point you are sounding VERY desperate trying to find a reason to lynch me instead of a No Lynch like everyone else thinks we should do. Why is that?
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[LoudmouthLee]

[Ctorj]

As it is for you.
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[mudbuck]

[LoudmouthLee]

[mudbuck]

Robert E. Coolage looked upon the scene with great dispair. The weirding just got weirder. Da5id laid in his own blood at the intersection of 5th Avenue and Market Street, where the Starbucks was located. Needless to say, the coffee shop was quite... empty.

Coolage despaired quite well, because Da5id was a fellow cop. He drank his dark chocolate latte ($4.50) slowly, then left the scene.

It is Day 7. 3 alive, 2 to lynch. Sunset at Wednesday 17, noon PST.

[edit: wrong person!]

[Persona]

NOTE: I will be travelling to the other side of the country in 12 hours. I'm sorry for the late notice. I may or may not have connection while I'm there. Now, on to my post:

So Ctorj was a Cop, and lied about it? Bwahuh?

Here's what I see happening today:

1) LmL is Notfia. Samadhi will probably follow through on his vote for me because of my very scummy behaviour throughout the game, LmL follows suit, Notfia wins.

2) Samadhi is Notfia. The deciding vote is LmL's.

I will wait a bit to see if there's anything I can say or do to convince Samadhi that I'm not Mafia and LmL is a better target than he is. Otherwise, my vote is going there.

Incidentally, tonight I got that LmL is innocent, so I am officially insane.

[mudbuck]

STOP STOP STOP
I meant Da5id! Not Ctorj. Da5id is a cop. Sorry about that.

[Persona]

Huh. I was really expecting a no-kill rather than a kill of one of the town Cops. This makes me really think that, if the earlier talk about one traitor in the inept Cop trinity is true, then LmL has to be Mafia, and Ctorj has a 50/50 shot at providing the win to either group. If Ctorj was Notfia, the winning strategy was to no-kill, then claim that he as the doctor saved one of the other two cops, get a lynch on me (probably, Samadhi would have gone along), and win.

But LmL would have left Samadhi alive, for the same reasons. He was already convinced there was one Notfia cop, and that it was me.

And now that I look back at yesterday's postings, I see that LmL and Ctorj basically think each other are scum. Which means that whoever is Notfia *wanted* me to be the deciding vote between them. This, I will have to meditate on. Or just sleep. I'll be on in about 7 hours, and then I'll try and log in at least once more over the next two days.

[Persona]

Gah, I can't believe I didn't notice this earlier! In the oft-quoted post:

[mudbuck]

To clear any confusion: Ctorj is still alive. Only Da5id is dead. My bad.

[LoudmouthLee]

[LoudmouthLee]

[Persona]

One very effective defense made. Ctorj, your turn. I'll certainly be logging back on after my plane ride, but I feel that the last day deserves good statements from the key actors.