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Jedo the Jedi
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 4:07 am    Post subject: 41 Reply with quote

I don't think either of them are bad. If Manaspryte is mafia, he just tipped his hand. If he's a cop, he's tipped his hand. We should not lynch either of them, and I propose that we don't force Brian to claim. That way, we have one more unclaimed townie.
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Jedo the Jedi
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 4:39 am    Post subject: 42 Reply with quote

Also, I will be gone from tomorrow until Sunday, March 21. Don't expect anything from me until then. I will read up when I get back.
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Talitha
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 10:24 am    Post subject: 43 Reply with quote

First, I'd like Manaspryte to tell us exactly what information he has that indicates Brian is scum.

Second, Jedo gets a HUH? I'm interested to hear why he's so confident that they're both innocent. Do I have to wait 10 days for my answer?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 3:13 pm    Post subject: 44 Reply with quote

Damn, I kept checking this thread each day before it started, then it finally starts and it's already on page two before I got here. I even had a silly song quote all ready for a random vote, too:

That's my baby
She can be all four seasons
She can be kind
She can be cruel
She's got me guessing like a game show fool

But now it's a bit late to be guessing, so...I'm going to Vote: Allforbrian based on the current bandwagon. If he's wrong we can game over him next. I'm sure they'll both get great parting gifts.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 8:14 pm    Post subject: 45 Reply with quote

Lets just say that I am positive of him being scum. So positive that if he isnt, you can lynch me tomorrow.
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Jedo the Jedi
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 8:51 pm    Post subject: 46 Reply with quote

Talitha, you don't have to wait 10 days.

Based on Mana's confidence, I think Brian could be scum. I don't know about Mana's sanity, but he isn't mafia. That is a rather bold move if he is...
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 11:01 pm    Post subject: 47 Reply with quote

Good enough for me. Vote: Allforbrian
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 2:38 am    Post subject: 48 Reply with quote

guys, brian's not scum. Vote: ManaSpryte

Trust ME on this one.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 2:41 am    Post subject: 49 Reply with quote

unvote: AllforBrian

I ain't voting until Manaspyte and Dranko20 fully explain what the hell is going on.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 3:02 am    Post subject: 50 Reply with quote

Both of you (Dranko and Mana) please elucidate.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 6:31 am    Post subject: 51 Reply with quote

I'm a cop. Dranco, I KNOW you are not, as you are not my partner.

I got a scum on AllForBrian.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 7:47 am    Post subject: 52 Reply with quote

(The Screen Flashes: Current Votecount)

Brian - 5 (ManaSpryte, DMI, Sycko, Shteven, Dan)
ManaSpryte - 2 (Cloudrunner, Dranco20)
MGM - 1 (Jedo)
Dan - 1 (MGM)
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 8:18 am    Post subject: 53 Reply with quote

I'd say five votes calls for a roll call at least, if not a simple "ok hang me I'm mafia" plea instead. Muahahahaha.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 9:32 am    Post subject: 54 Reply with quote

ManaSpryte wrote:
I'm a cop. Dranco, I KNOW you are not, as you are not my partner.

I got a scum on AllForBrian.

Who says the cops have to be on the same team?
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Talitha
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 9:47 am    Post subject: 55 Reply with quote

Mana: Are you familiar with different cop sanities? Do you have a good reason to believe you are sane? Usually it's good play to wait until day 2 before coming out with a guilty result in case you are paranoid or insane.
Also, it's possible there may be more than one cop pair in the game.

I'm not familiar with any of LML's game setups though, so if someone knows that he only ever uses one sane cop in his games, they should probably say so.

Dranko: If Brian's your partner, are you aware that we don't know for sure whether our partners are scum or not?
I'm not asking you to confirm who your partner is BTW, I'd rather keep that all under wraps right now.

For now: FOS: Brian You probably need to claim.
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Talitha
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 10:02 am    Post subject: 56 Reply with quote

I just realised that a claim from Brian isn't going to help much, unless he goofs up and claims mafia.

So I'll wait for a defense from Brian instead.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 11:54 am    Post subject: 57 Reply with quote

Vote: Allforbrian

Good enough for me as well.
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Mgm
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 1:12 pm    Post subject: 58 Reply with quote

Talitha wrote:
Mana: Are you familiar with different cop sanities? Do you have a good reason to believe you are sane? Usually it's good play to wait until day 2 before coming out with a guilty result in case you are paranoid or insane.
Also, it's possible there may be more than one cop pair in the game.

I'm not familiar with any of LML's game setups though, so if someone knows that he only ever uses one sane cop in his games, they should probably say so.
I'll remind you that Manaspryte was in DP's Cops and Mobbers Mafia, so YES he is familiar with different sanities. As for LML: he seems to like odd roles and setups, so I doubt he'd use just one sane cop.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 8:22 pm    Post subject: 59 Reply with quote

I'm partnered with Cloudrunner. Each night, we receive a new pro-town power to use as we see fit. Last night, we became roleblockers and decided to block Jedo the Jedi, whom Cloud chose apparently at random. On the first night with no information, I didn't see any reason to disagree with his choice.

To be honest, I'm not sure how else I'm supposed to defend myself against "Brian is scum, trust me.", but some of Mana's recent behavior gets me concerned about his investigation.

ManaSpryte, post 51 wrote:

I'm a cop. Dranco, I KNOW you are not, as you are not my partner.

I got a scum on AllForBrian.


First you assume that your first investigation is guaranteed accurate, then you assume you're the only cop in a 20-person game? You've been relentless in your attacks on me, trying to push this as hard as you can to get me lynched. In addition, you haven't provided the town with much useful information beyond "Lynch Brian. C'mon." The way you've played this game so tight-lipped and trying to get me lynched as fast as possible makes me very concerned, Spryte.

The people who have blatantly jumped on this wagon with no explanation make me concerned as well. A few examples:

Shteven, post 44 wrote:

I'm going to Vote: Allforbrian based on the current bandwagon.

Dan, post 47 wrote:

Good enough for me. Vote: Allforbrian

MadMax, post 57 wrote:

Vote: Allforbrian
Good enough for me as well.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 8:40 pm    Post subject: 60 Reply with quote

I expect that there are two cops: Myself and my partner.
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Dmi
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 8:44 pm    Post subject: 61 Reply with quote

If what I think is correct, then there's only 10 roles. Only doubled.

Sort of like Siamese Twin on mafiascum except without the dying.
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jadesmar
Bad Puppy



PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 9:06 pm    Post subject: 62 Reply with quote

ManaSpryte wrote:
I expect that there are two cops: Myself and my partner.


Alright, so vote: AllforBrian
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cloudRunner
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 10:22 pm    Post subject: 63 Reply with quote

Wait.. Manaspryte, what makes you so sure that both of you are cops? According to LML's setup, a team gets ONLY 1 night choice.

LML first post wrote:
Each team has a special ability. Some possibly more powerful than others. Each team may only send *1* night action. Both Members MUST send the PM in order to get the results. PLEASE INCLUDE WHICH MEMBER IS DOING THE ACTION

...Making it IMPOSSIBLE for both of you to be functional cops.

Another thing.. I don't know where LML said, but I thought he said that it is possible for your teammate to be on the mafia. As far as any of us are concerned your partner may very easily be scum. I still don't find a good enough reason to buy your claim.

Vote: ManaSpryte
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 11:03 pm    Post subject: 64 Reply with quote

cloudRunner wrote:
Wait.. Manaspryte, what makes you so sure that both of you are cops? According to LML's setup, a team gets ONLY 1 night choice.

...Making it IMPOSSIBLE for both of you to be functional cops.


I think it would be fairly simple for him to just ask his partner if they got the same result. Just click PM, we are allowed to talk to partners during the day right?
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Mgm
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 12:07 am    Post subject: 65 Reply with quote

I believe the scum are spread across the teams.
Quote:
19. Internet Stranger - Todd Newton - Vig - SK* - Game Over - Night 1.

1) I'm sure IS's partner believed him to be a vigilante. Yet he was not just a partner, but someone with a hidden identity.

2) It would be too easy to identify scum if their team mate died if they were both scum.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 2:00 am    Post subject: 66 Reply with quote

I don't think the roles and partners setup is that complicated. Each team shares a night action (I'm sure there are few without night actions, though), so, both people have that power. Ie: manaspryte + partner ARE both cops. Now, one could be paranoid, one could be sane. That's why you have to pick which one performs the action. But, either one can do the night action, so they both have the power. You have to agree with your partner, so you both know that you are the same. If you had to agree and then always pick one person to do it, that would be different. Either one can try.

Also, I'm remaining steadfast on my vote for allforbrian, because he quoted one line of my and completely missed my -in character- song lyrics as if they were meaningless! I've played a bunch of role playing muds, and such a balant disregard for roleplaying irks me. That's right, I said irks.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 3:22 am    Post subject: 67 Reply with quote

Shteven wrote:
That's why you have to pick which one performs the action.


You pick? Me and my partner both have to send in the same choice. The only reason for you to do otherwise is if you're mafia.

FOS: Shteven
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 5:55 am    Post subject: 68 Reply with quote

Read the opening post, DMI. The mod says it clearly.
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jadesmar
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 7:08 am    Post subject: 69 Reply with quote

Shteven: This is a game of mafia. This is not a role-playing game.
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Talitha
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 8:38 am    Post subject: 70 Reply with quote

I guess the logical way to proceed is to lynch Brian and test the cop.

Sorry hun! vote: AllforBrian

That's 8 votes by my count.

Who hasn't checked in for this game day yet? Can we hear from everyone before anyone else votes for Brian please?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 8:50 pm    Post subject: 71 Reply with quote

AllForBrian wrote:
The people who have blatantly jumped on this wagon with no explanation make me concerned as well. A few examples:

Shteven, post 44 wrote:

I'm going to Vote: Allforbrian based on the current bandwagon.

Dan, post 47 wrote:

Good enough for me. Vote: Allforbrian

MadMax, post 57 wrote:

Vote: Allforbrian
Good enough for me as well.


Meh. Someone called you mafia with a pretty high degree of certainty, this is standard procedure of testing the cop. I made my vote before Dranko spoke up, but it doesn't really matter, Dranko hasn't added anything or provided any evidence, so my vote stays on you.

If Dranko were to speak up and flesh out why he thinks you AREN'T scum, I might consider unvoting you. But unfortunately for you, he seems to have wandered off and forgotten this game right after throwing a monkey wrench in it (wish he'd come back and post his reasoning already :p).
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 11:13 pm    Post subject: 72 Reply with quote

Dmi wrote:

You pick? Me and my partner both have to send in the same choice. The only reason for you to do otherwise is if you're mafia.


"You" as in the team. The rules are pretty clear, and your attempt to say I goofed flies right in the face of the following, clear as day, rule:

"Both Members MUST send the PM in order to get the results." -LML

It's at the start of the thread. Trying to cast suspicion on me, are we?

FOS: Dmi
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 11:20 pm    Post subject: 73 Reply with quote

Almost forgot, but don't want to edit my previous post: This is a game of role playing. You know, those PM's he sent out with your roles? Hope you're playing them, I mean, that's your role. You don't have to talk in middle english, but if I want to say things that sound good to me, I'm entitled. Of course, everyone else just thinks I'm stupid, but that's your right too. Let's see how many more fingers I get for being belligerent. I'm all for allowing choice; jadesmar is demanding I don't roleplay! That's cruel; and impeding on my free speech. I'd FOS him but it's ok because I've already cast one and let's not go crazy. I could also rant for pages, but let's not clog the thread too much!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 12:03 am    Post subject: 74 Reply with quote

[quote="Shteven"]
Dmi wrote:
It's at the start of the thread. Trying to cast suspicion on me, are we?

FOS: Dmi


Going the irony route, [url="http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail72.html]Eh, Shteve?[/url]
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 12:09 am    Post subject: 75 Reply with quote

Wow, really should have previewed that one.

I'll say it again: Going the irony route, Eh, Shteve?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 12:52 am    Post subject: 76 Reply with quote

Shteven, I was wrong.
It's just that I didn't indicate who was performing the action in my choice. I guess my partner did.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 3:55 am    Post subject: 77 Reply with quote

Dmi: I'll forgive you for the finger, but do try to follow the rules Wink I can't be too harsh on this, because I told my partner to pick someone randomly and that I'd just automatically agree; so I guess the first night is a bit lax. I intend to talk about it much more night two.

Dan: Irony rocks. I'm not sure about the "irony route" as it applies to mafia games, I've been familiar with the game for some time but this is the first one I've actually been in, so some of the coined terms I'm not familiar with. This one isn't too hard to guess; and I can assume it has to do with a proof of the following nature:

Given: Mafia people don't post in order to avoid being suspicious
Thus: People who post a lot are not mafia
Therefore: You should post a lot to prove you're not mafia.

Damn, looks like you nailed me (can't wait for someone to quote this out of context). Am I right about the proof?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 6:19 am    Post subject: 78 Reply with quote

All I meant by irony is that you accused someone of trying to cast suspicion on you, and then followed it up with a Finger of Suspicion.

Why do I ahve the feeling I'm spelling suspicion wrong?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 4:38 pm    Post subject: 79 Reply with quote

that's actually not true, sometimes I like to play the tactic where I post alot, when I'm scum, that way I can say hey, i'm post alot, im not scum! Don't you see?

Where, in reality, it doesn't work that way at all.

Anyways, I was just kidding around with the whole brians scummyness thing, i don't really know. All I do know is I like more then this on day 1:

Cop: Found scum.
Town: BANDWAGON
Brian: You're insane, man.
Cop: Mah bad.

I mean, seriously, let's talk some, after a while it becomes clear who the lynch is for the day, and in my opinion, it's coron. But that's because he's always my pick for the lynch, always. (Is he even in this game?)

Anyways, yeah, unvote whoever I was voting for

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 12:28 am    Post subject: 80 Reply with quote

Can I keep my torch? Anyway, If we lynch Brian and he is scum then, yay we got scum, if we lynch him and we don't get scum then we get mana(?) tommorow, and he's either insane or mafia, right? Either way we need to lynch Brian, so why hasn't that happened yet? Doesn't anyone else want to kill the scum?

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