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Logain
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2002 7:16 pm    Post subject: 1 Reply with quote

The language class was given another assignment of translations, once again as large as the last one, and of course they have it all mixed up. But what's new. The class was divided into two groups to work out the translation.

The two groups really had trouble this time around. They had to translate simple phrases or compound words, and while the first group of students were good at keeping the phrases together, they completely screwed up their translations. The second group was much better at the translating, but didn't group anything together. Can you help them out?

For more background on the last three puzzles, visit my puzzle site Logain's Puzzle Page, and try either 8,11, or 18.

The lists....

A. avoid some bits
B. buck stop
C. congregated to give
D. cursed helper
E. cried out fastener
F. long eared depart
G. lovely female paper collection
H. marine creature window
I. mid abdomen low pitch
J. required deer
K. storage of predictor
L. theatrical lack of interest
M. twist of nurtured
N. vibratory murmur melodic songs
O. violate a dock

1. apiece
2. baked good
3. belt
4. bottom
5. bug
6. buttocks
7. condiment
8. wheel
9. evaluate
10. grain
11. hurt
12. locks
13. marine
14. might
15. money
16. nip
17. opportunity
18. delivery
19. pit
20. pressed
21. income
22. receding
23. sever
24. singers
25. spirit
26. stain
27. help
28. table
29. chime
30. wet meal

Answers
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A(5,16) - flee byte / flea bite - solved by GH & Quailman
B(25,23) - hart brake / heart break - solved by GH
C(7,19) - mustered cede / mustard seed - solved by Saxifrage
D(3,27) - banned aide / band-aid - solved by ZutAlors! & ShadowDragyn
E(22,8) - bawled / tyer - solved by GH
F(12,26) - hare die / hair dye - solved by Quailman
G(29,24) - belle quire / bell choir - solved by Quailman & GH
H(14,11) - mussel pane / muscle pain - solved by Zealot & Saxifrage
I(13,4) - navel bass / naval base - solved by Zealot & GH
J(20,30) - needed doe / kneaded dough - solved by Marvin & GH
K(15,21) - cache prophet / cash profit - solved by ShadowDragyn & Quailman
L(9,28) - revue bored / review board - solved by GH & Zealot
M(10,2) - wry bred / rye bread - solved by ZutAlors! & Quailman
N(1,17) - purr chants / per chance - solved by Quailman & GH
O(6,18) - breach berth / breech birth - solved by Quailman & GH

[This message has been edited by Logain (edited 02-10-2002 08:32 PM).]
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Logain
Stretch Armstrong



PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2002 12:05 am    Post subject: 2 Reply with quote

Oh, and for anyone who hasn't been around for the previous versions of this puzzle when I posted them, and didn't check my link above , the pairs and matches are related homonyms.
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Zealot
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2002 2:28 am    Post subject: 3 Reply with quote

Well, since no one has replied to Logain's puzzle, here's what I got at a glance:

H. (?,11) ... Pane/Pain
I. (?,4) ... Bass/Base ?

More if I have time to actually look at this later
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Logain
Stretch Armstrong



PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2002 4:11 pm    Post subject: 4 Reply with quote

Hmmmm, lack of interest or did I make this one tougher than the previous ones...since they all were solved in just a couple days.

Zealot is correct on both partials if that helps.
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Quailman
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2002 4:30 pm    Post subject: 5 Reply with quote

I'm glad you said these are tougher than the previous ones. I looked at this when you first posted it and got depressed because I couldn't get any. Now that I've seen Zealot's post, I can get 2 partials.
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Marvin
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2002 4:36 pm    Post subject: 6 Reply with quote

Required deer - needed doe - kneaded dough - pressed + money?
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Logain
Stretch Armstrong



PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2002 4:50 pm    Post subject: 7 Reply with quote

I changed a few since after Quailman's comment I realized there were too many that had double meanings. You can tell which ones in the bottom list are updated since they're not in alphabetical order anymore.

Marvin is very close...one mistake.
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ZutAlors!
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2002 4:50 pm    Post subject: 8 Reply with quote

How about:

D = (24, 27) band/banned aide/aid
M = (?, 2) bred/bread
O = (?, 1) pier/per
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GH
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2002 5:01 pm    Post subject: 9 Reply with quote

I (13,4) = Naval Base (navel + bass) -- thanks, Zealot

A = (?, 16) byte/bite

[This message has been edited by GH (edited 02-06-2002 12:15 PM).]
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Quailman
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2002 5:15 pm    Post subject: 10 Reply with quote

WOOHOO! I get to steal oone from Zut!

M = (10, 2) wry bred/ rye bread
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GH
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2002 5:30 pm    Post subject: 11 Reply with quote

Marvin, maybe "dough" = "wet meal" instead of "money"
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ShadowDragyn
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2002 6:11 pm    Post subject: 12 Reply with quote

K: storage = cache/cash = money?
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GH
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2002 6:41 pm    Post subject: 13 Reply with quote

B (6, 23) = rear end ??
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Quailman
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2002 6:44 pm    Post subject: 14 Reply with quote

Melodic songs/opportunity: chants/chance
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Quailman
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2002 6:47 pm    Post subject: 15 Reply with quote

paper collection/singers: quire/choir
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GH
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2002 6:47 pm    Post subject: 16 Reply with quote

Good one, Quailman.

N (1, 17) = perchance (purr/chants)
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GH
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2002 6:57 pm    Post subject: 17 Reply with quote

Good one again!

G (29, 24) Bell Choir (belle, quire)


C'mon. Tee up another one for me.

[This message has been edited by GH (edited 02-06-2002 02:00 PM).]
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Quailman
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2002 7:20 pm    Post subject: 18 Reply with quote

F(12,26) Hair Dye/Hare die
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Quailman
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2002 7:42 pm    Post subject: 19 Reply with quote

K (15,21) Cache Prophet/ Cash Profit

Thanks, Shadow Dragyn!
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ShadowDragyn
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2002 7:53 pm    Post subject: 20 Reply with quote

D (3, 27) banned aide/band aid

Partly from Zut's guess.
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Quailman
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2002 7:55 pm    Post subject: 21 Reply with quote

delivery/dock: birth/berth
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GH
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2002 7:57 pm    Post subject: 22 Reply with quote

Quail, you're the man! I'd say:

O (23, 18): Breech Birth (breach + berth)

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Logain
Stretch Armstrong



PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2002 8:16 pm    Post subject: 23 Reply with quote

*Whew*, just got out of a meeting and I think I finally updated the list. Good job so far.
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Logain
Stretch Armstrong



PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2002 8:26 pm    Post subject: 24 Reply with quote

Sorry GH, I had to take away credit for one...wasn't quite correct yet
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GH
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2002 8:29 pm    Post subject: 25 Reply with quote

Doh! What means "breach" then? Receding?
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Quailman
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2002 8:37 pm    Post subject: 26 Reply with quote

Buttocks=breech=breach=violate
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GH
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2002 8:38 pm    Post subject: 27 Reply with quote

Oh, yeah. I knew that. I was trying to get to the wrong word.
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Quailman
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2002 8:42 pm    Post subject: 28 Reply with quote

A (5, 16) Flea Bite/ Flee Byte
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GH
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2002 8:45 pm    Post subject: 29 Reply with quote

Good work, Q!
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GH
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2002 8:50 pm    Post subject: 30 Reply with quote

Maybe pit = hole/whole = congregated.
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GH
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2002 8:55 pm    Post subject: 31 Reply with quote

H (25, 11) = "Soul Pain" (sole, pane) ??
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Logain
Stretch Armstrong



PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2002 8:59 pm    Post subject: 32 Reply with quote

No whole or soul here.
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GH
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2002 9:09 pm    Post subject: 33 Reply with quote

All right, then. This *has* to be right:

receding = bald/bawled = cried out
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GH
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2002 9:15 pm    Post subject: 34 Reply with quote

E (22, 8) = Bald Tire (bawled, tyer)
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GH
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2002 9:24 pm    Post subject: 35 Reply with quote

sever = break/brake = stop
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Logain
Stretch Armstrong



PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2002 12:18 am    Post subject: 36 Reply with quote

I'll add that "pit" has nothing to do with a hole/ditch...it refers to one of its other definitions, and the reference for "buck" is a more obscure word like quire was.

[This message has been edited by Logain (edited 02-06-2002 07:19 PM).]
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Logain
Stretch Armstrong



PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2002 1:15 pm    Post subject: 37 Reply with quote

Bump & a hint...

7-19 & 9-28 are pairings.

Two other correct halves were mentioned so far.

[This message has been edited by Logain (edited 02-08-2002 08:24 AM).]
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Quailman
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2002 1:22 pm    Post subject: 38 Reply with quote

I thought 8 was used already.
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Logain
Stretch Armstrong



PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2002 1:25 pm    Post subject: 39 Reply with quote

Who said anything about 8 , surely I didn't make a typo this early in the morning.
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Saxifrage
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2002 2:06 pm    Post subject: 40 Reply with quote

(Jumping in for the first time...)

C (7,19) mustard seed/mustered, cede
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