Werewolf: the Apocalypse Mafia [GAME OVER - Town wins]

[Garou_Kinfolk]

Current Vote Count:

[jadesmar]

Here's a list:

Most likely to be scum
Lifeinmomland
Perpentach
MNOWAX
Durryn
Zag
Itisally
Raearia
Jedo the Jedi
Sentran
jadesmar
Most likely to be town

Because lists are fun.

Disclaimer: This list is based on very little, mostly gut, as it is day 1. Later lists will also be based on mostly gut, because that's the way I roll.

In my defense: I have an above average sized gut.

[Perpentach]

Jadesmar, just for clarity could you explain the "very little" that your list is based on?
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[jadesmar]

[jadesmar]

*Meta game reasons*

[Perpentach]

[jadesmar]

[jadesmar]

Here's the conversation we just had:

Me: I don't have much of anything, but some suspicions.
Perpentach: Interesting, why do you have these suspicions.
Me: A little suspicious about your defense of Liml.
Perpentach: Well, that's not much of anything.

See that bit up there where I said I didn't have much of anything.

[Perpentach]

I feel that the coversation we just had was more like this.

Jadesmar: I don't have much of anything, but some suspicions.
Me: Interesting, why do you have these suspicions?
Jadesmar: A little suspicious "your immediate leap to her defense."
Me: How could you be suspicious of me when your entire suspicion is based on a single line that was more about you then LiML?
Jadesmar: I did say it wasn't much.
Jadesmar: Now I feel that it's necessary to be condescending.

[jadesmar]

I always find it necessary to be at least a little condescending.

Your post piggy-backed on Sentran's attack on me. So your quote is out if context.

[Raearia]

Well it has been a busy weekend with no slowing down in sight, but wanted to pop on here real fast to just let everyone know. I will be catching up tomorrow.
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[MNOWAX]

[jadesmar]

[jadesmar]

[jadesmar]

[Lifeinmomland]

It's a trap MNO. Anything you say he will just say it was obvious and we are all thinking that thereby making you scummy
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[jadesmar]

[MNOWAX]

[MNOWAX]

[jadesmar]

[jadesmar]

[jadesmar]

[MNOWAX]

Here, lets be really committal about this.

Locking in Vote: jadesmar

My vote will not leave until the end of the day. Why? Icause I know I have scum by his little toenail.

*gets the rope ready for a hangin', while whistling the theme from Rocky*

Do you prefer Nylon or Hemp?
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MNOWAX

[jadesmar]

[MNOWAX]

[MNOWAX]

Oh and FYI, You have played in multiple games with me, including Robo Mafia, Clint Eastwood Mafia, and Survivor Mafia.
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MNOWAX

[jadesmar]

[Sentran]

[jadesmar]

[jadesmar]

[Durryn]

I must say, I don't care for the attitude which has been exposed and I have found, with what little experience I have, that most people can't help but play more aggressively when they are scum.

I think I smell Wyrm taint on you Jadesmar.

For the moment I will merely UNVOTE

FoS: Jadesmar

No argument is invalid, merely misinformed or misdirected.
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[jadesmar]

[Raearia]

Jades your attitude is a huge drawback to wanting to post anything. I don't mind players stirring the pot. But I do mind when I feel there is a player being downright mean.

I know you feel it's alright to be condescending or call another player terrible. But maybe it would be best if you toned it down. Like I noticed with Deception in the Game of Thrones Mafia. People voted him for his attitude even though he was town, and I feel that is part of the case here. I don't know if you are town or not but you were last game and you played similar to this, which is why I am holding back any votes or FoS on you.
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[jadesmar]

[jadesmar]

[Zag]

I haven't written much because I just haven't had anything new to say.

Thanks for unvoting your RVS vote, Durryn. However, if it turns out I'm wrong and jadesmar is scum, then you're my next suspect. I realize that it might be a normal FOS due to lack of confidence, but it also looks like distancing. (For the record, I don't really think jadesmar is scum, so this point could well be moot.)

I haven't gotten much reaction re Sentran. Jedo said that he agreed with me, but then didn't vote. No one else has (I don't think) commented on my suspicions. My suspicion of him remains my strongest opinion, and nothing he has done since has moved my opinion either way. On the other hand, since he was originally on the jadesmar mob, and has moved back to it, then that move isn't additionally suspicious, even if jadesmar flips town. However, if jadesmar turns out to be scum, then Sentran almost certainly isn't. (In other words, if I'm wrong, then I'm REALLY wrong. ) My point is that a scum Sentran would not have needed to vote for a scum jadesmar again -- he would have already established real distance, and he wouldn't want to add pressure to a scum buddy.

LOL. What a convoluted mess. Here's a summary:
1. I don't think jadesmar is scum. However, if I'm wrong, then Sentran almost certainly isn't, and I suspect Durryn is (not 100%, though).
2. I do suspect Sentran, though it is not a super-confidant read. If he is scum, then jadesmar almost certainly isn't, and I would then suspect Jedo (also not 100% -- not even a whole lot above average, just enough to be worth mentioning).

[jadesmar]

[Durryn]

I have no evidence to support, nor invalidate my statement. I can however clarify it.

Lacking evidence, no argument is invalid, merely misinformed or misdirected.

Your merely calling it invalid does not, in any way, shape, or form, disprove his argument and therefore is in its self erroneous.

Before this breaks down into a war of semantics, I will yield the floor with a response to Zag. Instead of my normal switching all over the place with voting, I intend to use the FoS until I have something stronger than a weak, nearly insignificant suspicion.
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[jadesmar]

[Sentran]