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Coyote

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Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:15 am Post subject: 1 |
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It's been a while since anyone's posted any chess problems, so here's a timely trio of two-movers to try tackling:
L. Jokisch, 1909
V. Nabokov, 1947
J. Schiffmann, 1928
In each case, White to play and mate in two. |
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MNOWAX
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Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:37 am Post subject: 2 |
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- 1: Nc7+ NxNc7 2: e6 ++ - Is what I'm thinking for the first one. _________________ The Man The Myth The Legend
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MNOWAX
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Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:43 am Post subject: 3 |
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-1: Qc5 + d5 2: b8 - > Q ++ - for number 2 _________________ The Man The Myth The Legend
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Zag
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Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:52 am Post subject: 4 |
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| MNOWAX wrote: |
| - 1: Nc7+ NxNc7 2: e6 ++ - Is what I'm thinking for the first one. |
2. .. BxR |
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Zag
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Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:55 am Post subject: 5 |
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| MNOWAX wrote: |
| -1: Qc5 + d5 2: b8 - > Q ++ - for number 2 |
Dang! I had thought of that, but I thought that the rook could block it. However, the rook is pinned, so I do think that this one works. |
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Zag
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Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 11:02 am Post subject: 6 |
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#3.
1. Rxe3, if 1. .. d4xe3, then 2. Qxe3++ else Qe5++ |
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The Potter
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Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 11:54 am Post subject: 7 |
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#1
[1. Kf5 NxG5
2. Nc7 ++
--or if NxG5 isn't played--
2. QxE4 ++]
actually, I guess the knighy could move and put white in check. sigh.
But [Bh7] should do the trick.
if backs counters with f5 we can capture en passant
...but then Nxd5 is open. Moving the mental pieces around is tricky!
My final answer is the unlikely d4 and then Qa2 or Qh8 if the pawn is captured; otherwise a knight should be able to checkmate. _________________ Artwork | Fractals | Don't ignore your dreams; don't work too much; say what you think; cultivate friendships; be happy.
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The Potter
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Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 12:10 pm Post subject: 8 |
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| MNOWAX wrote: |
| -1: Qc5 + d5 2: b8 - > Q ++ - for number 2 |
You can't play 2: b8 because it puts yourself in check by the rook.
I believe that
1. Qb4 is the way to start. If the knight takes the rook, we can go Qd4 ++ and if something else happens, Rf5 ++ _________________ Artwork | Fractals | Don't ignore your dreams; don't work too much; say what you think; cultivate friendships; be happy. |
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The Potter
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Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 12:32 pm Post subject: 9 |
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| Zag wrote: |
#3.
1. Rxe3, if 1. .. d4xe3, then 2. Qxe3++ else Qe5++ |
So what do you do...
1. Rxe3 d3
2 Qe5 Kg5?
Which is why I feel
Bc3 is correct
because it will allow Qxe3 for xc3 or d3
or in the case of e2, Bd2
ahhh but that is still weak from b4
But of course! Ne2+
if Kxf5; 2. Qe5++
if Kxf3; 2. Nh4++
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L'lanmal
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Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 1:01 pm Post subject: 10 |
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#1
The black king currently has no escape route. White needs to keep it that way while freeing up a guarding piece for the mate.
1. Pd2-d4
This double covers c5, and frees up the d-knight to mate on b6. Black has three choices: guard b6, take the pawn, or make a different escape route for his king.
(guard b6 - this unguards a second mate square)
. . . b-c5
N-f6++
(take d-pawn - this opens up a diagonal for the queen)
. . . cxd3 (e.p.)
Q-a2++
or
. . . exd3 (e.p)
Q-h1++
(make a different escape route)
. . . c6-c5
Q-b7++
or
. . . n moves (including nxd4)
N-c7++
Did I miss anything? |
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The Potter
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Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 1:21 pm Post subject: 11 |
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(I also believe that is correct. My edit comes 20 minutes later but I had not seen your post.) _________________ Artwork | Fractals | Don't ignore your dreams; don't work too much; say what you think; cultivate friendships; be happy. |
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novice
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Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 1:22 pm Post subject: 12 |
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1:
1. Bh7 threatens Qxe4#
1. .. Nc5 or Nxg5. 2. Nc7#
1. .. f5. 2. exf6 (en passant) #
2: What MNOWAX said.
1: Qc5+ d5 2: b8 - > Q #
3:
1. Qe5+. Kxf3. 2. Nh4#
1... Kg5. f4#
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novice
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Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 1:25 pm Post subject: 13 |
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| Zag wrote: |
#3.
1. Rxe3, if 1. .. d4xe3, then 2. Qxe3++ else Qe5++ |
What if 1. Rxe3. gxf3? |
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novice
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Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 1:31 pm Post subject: 14 |
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| L'lanmal wrote: |
#1
The black king currently has no escape route. White needs to keep it that way while freeing up a guarding piece for the mate.
1. Pd2-d4
Did I miss anything? |
What if 1. Pd2-d4. Bd8? |
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The Potter
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Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 1:41 pm Post subject: 15 |
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| novice wrote: |
1:
1. Bh7 threatens Qxe4#
1. .. Nc5 or Nxg5. 2. Nc7#
1. .. f5. 2. exf6 (en passant) # <-------
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The unfortunate part is that the bishop is no longer on g8 to prevent Nxg5 so it isn't checkmate. _________________ Artwork | Fractals | Don't ignore your dreams; don't work too much; say what you think; cultivate friendships; be happy. |
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The Potter
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Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 1:51 pm Post subject: 16 |
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#1 d3, if a pawn takes it see L'lanmal's post. If Bd8, xe4 _________________ Artwork | Fractals | Don't ignore your dreams; don't work too much; say what you think; cultivate friendships; be happy. |
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Zag
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Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 1:51 pm Post subject: 17 |
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| The Potter wrote: |
But of course! Ne2+
if Kxf5; 2. Qe5++
if Kxf3; 2. Nh4++
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But that isn't mate.
1. Ne2+ Kxf5
2. Qe5 KxQ
| novice wrote: |
3:
1. Qe5+. Kxf3. 2. Nh4#
1... Kg5. f4#
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I thought I saw a flaw in this, but I was wrong. This looks like it.
Dang, I wish I were smarter. |
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The Potter
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Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 1:55 pm Post subject: 18 |
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My biggest problem with computer screen chess boards is figuring out which way the pawns are actually going. I thought the white pawn was protecting the queen! _________________ Artwork | Fractals | Don't ignore your dreams; don't work too much; say what you think; cultivate friendships; be happy. |
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novice
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Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 2:15 pm Post subject: 19 |
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| The Potter wrote: |
| My biggest problem with computer screen chess boards is figuring out which way the pawns are actually going. I thought the white pawn was protecting the queen! |
I have the exact same problem.
Zag, the flaw you pointed out applies to mine as well as to Potter's. So it looks like we're still missing complete solutions to both 1 and 3. |
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novice
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Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 2:19 pm Post subject: 20 |
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So amending Zak's solution yields:
3:
1. Rxe3.
1 ..dxe3. 2. Qxe3#
1 ..gxf3. 2. Rh4#
else 2. Qe5#
EDIT: Bah, 2. Qe5+. Kg5 is still a problem.
These puzzles are fiendishly constructed... |
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Trojan Horse
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Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 3:43 pm Post subject: 21 |
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| The Potter wrote: |
| My biggest problem with computer screen chess boards is figuring out which way the pawns are actually going. |
Uh, which way ARE the pawns going?  |
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novice
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Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 4:14 pm Post subject: 22 |
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| Trojan Horse wrote: |
| The Potter wrote: |
| My biggest problem with computer screen chess boards is figuring out which way the pawns are actually going. |
Uh, which way ARE the pawns going?  |
White pawns move towards row 8, black pawns towards row 1.
| The Potter wrote: |
| #1 d3, if a pawn takes it see L'lanmal's post. If Bd8, xe4 |
Missed this, I think you got it. |
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Trojan Horse
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Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 5:01 pm Post subject: 23 |
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| The Potter wrote: |
| #1 d3, if a pawn takes it see L'lanmal's post. If Bd8, xe4 |
My reply: if you move d3, I move c3. Your response?
| novice wrote: |
| Trojan Horse wrote: |
| The Potter wrote: |
| My biggest problem with computer screen chess boards is figuring out which way the pawns are actually going. |
Uh, which way ARE the pawns going?  |
White pawns move towards row 8, black pawns towards row 1. |
*whoosh* |
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novice
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Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 5:12 pm Post subject: 24 |
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| Trojan Horse wrote: |
| *whoosh* |
I assume this is the sound of me not getting it, I'm not sure what I'm not getting, though. |
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Trojan Horse
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Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 5:43 pm Post subject: 25 |
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Then here's my proposed solution for #2:
1. Qc5++
Black can't respond 1 ... d5, because White is at the TOP of the board, and Black is at the BOTTOM.
You do know what day this is, right? |
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Trojan Horse
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Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 5:50 pm Post subject: 26 |
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Similarly, for #3:
1. Qxe3++
Black can't respond 1. ... dxe3, since he's moving UP the board.
#1 has me stumped, though. |
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groza528
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Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 5:51 pm Post subject: 27 |
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| Hmm... I would accept "white at the top" on an unlabeled board, but this board is clearly labeled on ranks and files. If that is in fact the trick to this puzzle it unfortunately falls a little flat due to a flawed premise caused by limitations of the chess tags. |
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Trojan Horse
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Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 6:09 pm Post subject: 28 |
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Sigh. Perhaps I was too suspicious.
| Trojan Horse wrote: |
| The Potter wrote: |
| #1 d3, if a pawn takes it see L'lanmal's post. If Bd8, xe4 |
My reply: if you move d3, I move c3. Your response? |
The proper response is then 2. Qa2++, of course.
I think The Potter has the correct solution for #1. I withdraw my claim of April Fools trickery. Sorry, all. |
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The Potter
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Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:52 pm Post subject: 29 |
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#2:
Qc5+ is flawed because d5 cannot be followed by a promotion because moving that pawn put you in check.
My earlier attempt of Qb4 is foiled by c5. _________________ Artwork | Fractals | Don't ignore your dreams; don't work too much; say what you think; cultivate friendships; be happy. |
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Coyote

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Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 12:04 am Post subject: 30 |
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I suppose there's a few issues I should address:
a) Yes, this was deliberately posted on April 1st.
b) White pawns are moving UP the board. More generally, there's no trickery involved here with either the diagrams or the rules of chess. The joke's a bit more subtle.
c) I don't think anyone's caught on to the joke yet, though they skirted the edges while working on the one problem that's been correctly solved so far.
d) I'm going to spoiler this one, since it kinda gives away the joke (but not the actual solutions, sorry.)
There are three 'special' moves in chess that problem composers love to exploit. So much so in fact, that...
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Actually, I think I'll wait until tomorrow to finish that last sentence. |
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Trojan Horse
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Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:24 am Post subject: 31 |
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I think the point is that: since setting up an en passant capture was the wrong move in #1, we should forget about promoting the pawn in #2 and castling in #3.
Also, glad to know my scumdar wasn't completely malfunctioning. This puzzle is called "Chess Problems Du Jour". Given what the current "jour" is, and given that Coyote called these puzzles "timely", I knew there was some chicanery involved. I just went a bit too far.  |
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The Potter
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Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:35 am Post subject: 32 |
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So #3 is [after the hint...]
castling. Black has only three moves.
e2. 2. Bd4#
d3. 2. Qxe3#
xf3 2. ??
If only the hombre with the nobby thing was next to the hexing and vexing setup for Da Shooty Drive By. _________________ Artwork | Fractals | Don't ignore your dreams; don't work too much; say what you think; cultivate friendships; be happy. |
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Trojan Horse
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Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:30 am Post subject: 33 |
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For #3:
1. Rh2. Possible replies:
1. ... d3
2. Qxe3++
1. ... e2
2. Bd2++
1. ... gxf3
2. Rh4++
1. ... Kxf3
2. Rf2++
PLEASE say I got it right...  |
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The Potter
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Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 5:35 am Post subject: 34 |
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| Trojan Horse wrote: |
For #3:
1. Rh2. Possible replies:
1. ... Kxf3
2. Rf2++ |
sorry... xf2+ would be possible. our rook does have a use! _________________ Artwork | Fractals | Don't ignore your dreams; don't work too much; say what you think; cultivate friendships; be happy. |
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novice
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Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 8:09 am Post subject: 35 |
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| Trojan Horse wrote: |
For #3:
1. Rh2.
PLEASE say I got it right...  |
Brilliant! |
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L'lanmal
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Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:09 am Post subject: 36 |
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| Jokisch (Joke-ish) does sound like a good April Fools name, but I'm guessing that's a real person too. |
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Zag
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Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:19 am Post subject: 37 |
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So, for those trying to check their work.
#1 solution: L'lanmal in post #10 The Potter's modification in post #16
#3 solution: Trojan Horse in post #33.
Brilliant work, both all three of you.
I don't think we have a solution for #2 yet, or did I miss it?
Gaah. I've been trying a lot of things, with no luck. I have lots of ways to mate in 3, but none in 2.
Just to review, MNO proposed
1. Qc5+ d5 2. d8->Q++. But The Potter pointed out that this is an illegal move (putting yourself in check).
So far I've tried
1. BxR BxB 2. RxN Kd6 or 2 d8->Q d6+ or. 2 Nf7 KxNe6 or 2. Qc5 d5
1. d8->Q+ d6+ 2. BxR BxB or 2 Nf7 KxNe6 Since we're in check, our options are very limited, and I don't see any others that even put him in check never mind mate.
1. Qc5+ d5 2. Same two second moves, same two flaws.
1. Qb4, planning Rf5++ (or, following Nd4, QxN++), but c5 leaves K escape at d6
1. Qb3, planning Nf7++ but Kd6 give him an escape to e7
Oh! I think I've got it!
1. RxB, planning Nf7++. if 1. .. Kd6, then Qc5++
Edit. Crud. that doesn't work because the N on G5 is no longer pinned, so Nf7 isn't mate.
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DejMar
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Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:12 am Post subject: 38 |
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| The solution to #1 is NOT White's move d2-d4. Black can delay any mate by playing Be7 - d8. Any move made by White that checks the Black King is able to be captured by the Bishop, a pawn, or the King thus it is not a first of a 2-move to mate move.Thus, under a condition that White MUST mate in two, White would fail. |
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Trojan Horse
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Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:15 am Post subject: 39 |
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| Right. The Potter got #1 in post 16. |
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novice
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Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:27 pm Post subject: 40 |
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| Coyote wrote: |
V. Nabokov, 1947
White to play and mate in two. |
Here's my solution:
1. Bc2, putting Black in zugzwang
..Kd5: Qc5#
..Kd6: Qc5#
..Nxf4 (and other knight moves): Qd4#
..c5: Rf5#
..d6: Rf5#
..d5: Qc7#
And I missed the possible move
..dxe6 which is of course answered by Qc5#
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