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LordKinbote
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 7:16 pm    Post subject: 1 Reply with quote

Would anyone like to get a team of 4 together for the annual CISRA puzzle competition?

For those of you who are unfamiliar, it's an Australian competition that exists completely online. It consists of 5 rounds of 4 puzzles each. The first round launches tonight, and then the other rounds release once a day starting next Monday night (a week from now). Puzzles are very similar to the MIT hunt. There is usually an optional metapuzzle, but unlike the MIT hunt, winning is not based on solving the metapuzzle, it's based on solving the 20 puzzles as quickly as possible (you suffer point penalties if there are puzzles left unsolved when another round is released).

The team that I usually do it with has dissolved, though I may have one person who is still interested. That leaves 2-3 openings. Let me know...first come, first served! It's a lot of fun, and it's a bit more intimate than MIT due to the small team sizes.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 8:15 pm    Post subject: 2 Reply with quote

only if i get to call you Kintobe once. just once.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 8:32 pm    Post subject: 3 Reply with quote

MNOWAX wrote:
only if i get to call you Kintobe once. just once.

That counted as the once.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 9:06 pm    Post subject: 4 Reply with quote

Then I'll do it! Revenge most foul!
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 9:48 pm    Post subject: 5 Reply with quote

I'd be interested.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 11:06 pm    Post subject: 6 Reply with quote

Suspence wrote:
I'd be interested.


I have one person who for sure is on the team other than me, one person who has to get back to me, and MNOWAX who hasn't responded to PM. If one of those people decides not to participate, then I'd love to have you.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 11:13 pm    Post subject: 7 Reply with quote

PM sent, sorry didn't seeit.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 11:24 pm    Post subject: 8 Reply with quote

Okay, I think I've got a full team. I'll reply to this thread if someone drops off for whatever reason.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 11:37 pm    Post subject: 9 Reply with quote

Can anyone register, i.e. could we setup another team of GLers if we find interest?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 11:42 pm    Post subject: 10 Reply with quote

Suspence wrote:
Can anyone register, i.e. could we setup another team of GLers if we find interest?


Yes. You can sign up as a team of one, if you so desire (and many do).
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 11:53 pm    Post subject: 11 Reply with quote

I'd suck alone, but if anyone wants to join me, I'd be happy to start another team.

Anyone interested?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 1:02 am    Post subject: 12 Reply with quote

you know what? suspence take my spot.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 1:04 am    Post subject: 13 Reply with quote

I probably can't, since I just registered a team of one to meet the deadline. Not sure I have time to do the below...though I could still try.

I want to join a team, but I've already registered by myself or in a smaller team. What should I do?


E-mail us (puzzles@cisra.canon.com.au) to request deactivation of your team before Puzzle Week begins. After we confirm that your team has been deactivated, you will be free to join another team. Do not attempt to join a team while still on another team - you will disqualify both teams. Once Puzzle Week begins, nobody may change teams.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 1:32 am    Post subject: 14 Reply with quote

Suspence wrote:
I probably can't, since I just registered a team of one to meet the deadline. Not sure I have time to do the below...though I could still try.

I want to join a team, but I've already registered by myself or in a smaller team. What should I do?


E-mail us (puzzles@cisra.canon.com.au) to request deactivation of your team before Puzzle Week begins. After we confirm that your team has been deactivated, you will be free to join another team. Do not attempt to join a team while still on another team - you will disqualify both teams. Once Puzzle Week begins, nobody may change teams.


Puzzle Week doesn't begin for a week. Only the first round of puzzles releases tonight.

MNOWAX, if you really want to give up your spot, that's fine. All it would require is for me to add Suspence to the doc and to remove you. Suspence can be an "informal" member until his team of one can be deleted.

Do we want to do this?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 4:30 am    Post subject: 15 Reply with quote

I'm up for either way. If MNO really decides to back out, I will send an email as directed to puzzles@cisra.canon.com.au, so that I can join LKs team with no issue.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 4:44 am    Post subject: 16 Reply with quote

go ahead, it's going to be quite a bit for me on the pile, and if i have a few cases this week, i could be really pressed for time. Suspence, you take it.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 5:04 am    Post subject: 17 Reply with quote

I've sent an email requesting deactivation of the team I had setup. I'll let LK know when that gets confirmed, so that I can be added to his roster.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 5:11 am    Post subject: 18 Reply with quote

Can I work on puzzles in this thread? I've taken a look at the first one, right off the bat <CENSORED>

[edit]Apologies for the censorship, see my post below - grz[/edit]
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:23 am    Post subject: 19 Reply with quote

http://puzzle.cisra.com.au/puzzles.php for people to "play along"
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:58 am    Post subject: 20 Reply with quote

Suspence wrote:
Can I work on puzzles in this thread? I've taken a look at the first one, right off the bat <CENSORED>


No, we have more secure means of working on the puzzles. And we've already made some headway on some of them.

[edit]Apologies for the censorship, see my post below - grz[/edit]
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 12:00 pm    Post subject: 21 Reply with quote

Suspence, I've e-mailed access to the document. Let me know if you don't get it.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 1:38 pm    Post subject: 22 Reply with quote

Got it, thanks.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:31 pm    Post subject: 23 Reply with quote

My team deletion request has been confirmed. If officially free to join another team. Given my performance so far, I hope LK is still willing to have me.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:06 am    Post subject: 24 Reply with quote

Suspence wrote:
Can I work on puzzles in this thread? I've taken a look at the first one, right off the bat <CENSORED>.

Definitely don't work on puzzles here because
A) Someone who doesn't want spoilers may find them by mistake; several GLers are participating.
B) Someone who DOES want spoilers may find them and have an unfair advantage. Remember that there are prizes involved, even if most of us aren't eligible for them.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:57 am    Post subject: 25 Reply with quote

Quote:
Definitely don't work on puzzles here because
A) Someone who doesn't want spoilers may find them by mistake; several GLers are participating.
B) Someone who DOES want spoilers may find them and have an unfair advantage. Remember that there are prizes involved, even if most of us aren't eligible for them.


shit, yeah you're right, my mistake, I should have been thinking about that. I wasn't even thinking about the prizes.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 10:51 am    Post subject: 26 Reply with quote

I wouldn't mind joining in with someone just to work the puzzles.

I've already solved 2 of the 4 initial ones, and pretty much nearly have a third one solved (Who Really Shot First?). The one that has me a bit dumbfounded is The Question of Infinity. It would be nice to get anoher's perspective on them.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 11:42 am    Post subject: 27 Reply with quote

Did you solve 1D manually, or by writing a program?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 12:35 pm    Post subject: 28 Reply with quote

Manually. Don't have good programming software to bother with writing the program. (It is also less satisfying in puzzle solving when you use the crutch.)

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 12:44 pm    Post subject: 29 Reply with quote

I don't even see how you'd do that one by computer, and a manual approach seems pretty straightforward. Start with the top left one, and there are only 3 choices for what goes next to it on the left. For each of those, there are only a few choices for what goes above it. etc.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 12:51 pm    Post subject: 30 Reply with quote

I actually just cracked it manually, though I know our team was also trying a programming approach.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:00 pm    Post subject: 31 Reply with quote

Just curious. Has your team solved the puzzles 1A to 1D?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:06 pm    Post subject: 32 Reply with quote

We haven't finished off 1B yet, but we've done all the work. The rest are done.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:28 pm    Post subject: 33 Reply with quote

DejMar wrote:
Manually. Don't have good programming software to bother with writing the program. (It is also less satisfying in puzzle solving when you use the crutch.)


That really depends on how you look at it. Writing a program to solve a puzzle for you can often be just as difficult, if not more so, than solving the puzzle yourself.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:29 pm    Post subject: 34 Reply with quote

Zag wrote:
I don't even see how you'd do that one by computer, and a manual approach seems pretty straightforward. Start with the top left one, and there are only 3 choices for what goes next to it on the left. For each of those, there are only a few choices for what goes above it. etc.


Trust me, it's harder than it looks.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:08 pm    Post subject: 35 Reply with quote

Just finished up 1B, so that completes round 1 for our team.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:29 am    Post subject: 36 Reply with quote

May I ask what your team name(s) are?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:53 am    Post subject: 37 Reply with quote

Suspence and I are on Team Last Place.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:27 pm    Post subject: 38 Reply with quote

Looking through the team listings, there's also a team called "The Last Place". They are much closer to living up to their name than we are.

We can't be sure, but we believe we've solved all 4 meta-puzzle pieces in addition to the 4 regular puzzles, so we're off to a nice start.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:46 pm    Post subject: 39 Reply with quote

Suspence wrote:
Looking through the team listings, there's also a team called "The Last Place". They are much closer to living up to their name than we are.

We can't be sure, but we believe we've solved all 4 meta-puzzle pieces in addition to the 4 regular puzzles, so we're off to a nice start.


And as long as you solve all the puzzles before the next round, everybody is really tied for first until the last round. Only then does who finishes first really matter. (Of course, we'll have to solve puzzles faster than our current rate).
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:44 pm    Post subject: 40 Reply with quote

LordKinbote wrote:
Of course, we'll have to solve puzzles faster than our current rate.

One bit of good news is that I'm not working Monday, and can dedicate almost the whole day to puzzle-solving.
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