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jbvntx
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 4:48 am    Post subject: 321 Reply with quote

I'm curious too. I'm sympathetic to MatthewV's position but he broke like three rules. The game rule about going out of order seems minor, but the rule he posted broke two of the players rules: no word with aeiou and he repeated the same word in his rule "a".

That's at least two buzzes. I'm all for forgiving him and moving on, but I'd like to point out that zag was eliminated for posting a valid rule with no errors, and it was his turn. He was just late. Seems like the penalties are varied.

I'd suggest that we forgive MatthewV and also bring back zag. It seems fairest.
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MatthewV
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 5:39 am    Post subject: 322 Reply with quote

I am hopeful that I can resign and have the round continue.
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3iff
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 8:40 am    Post subject: 323 Reply with quote

Catching up...

If MatthewV posted out of turn, then his rule is ignored, therefore it can't be buzzed for other infractions. If MatthewV wishes to resign then he may do so (just post here if you wish to do so) but we will continue the round.

Perhaps the Zag buzz was a bit harsh, but I won't be resetting the game yet again just to bring him back.

jbv: I suggest you try moderating one of these games...it's really not as easy as it looks. Enthusiastic Grin
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Jack_Ian
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:47 pm    Post subject: 324 Reply with quote

3iff wrote:
Perhaps the Zag buzz was a bit harsh
Well his post did breach a stated rule and he was buzzed for it, so I think you made the right choice.


3iff wrote:
If MatthewV wishes to resign then he may do so (just post here if you wish to do so) but we will continue the round.
MatthewV wrote:
I am hopeful that I can resign and have the round continue.
So I guess I'm in. I'll post one later today. Thanks for the clarification.
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Jack_Ian
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 2:40 pm    Post subject: 325 Reply with quote

continuance equation lettercount divided by wordcount calculation producing eight minimum
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Jack_Ian
Big Endian



PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 2:43 pm    Post subject: 326 Reply with quote

If you want help locating the palindrome, you can find it here.
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jbvntx
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 3:03 pm    Post subject: 327 Reply with quote

Sorry, I didn't mean to sound critical of 3iff's job. I agree, it's hard to keep everyone happy and I think you're doing great.
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MatthewV
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 4:47 pm    Post subject: 328 Reply with quote

Rules games really only be run about once a year. It is a new meta rule.

As I made multiple mistakes, I feel it is my duty to resign. I am not a crook.
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Zag
Tired of his old title



PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:42 pm    Post subject: 329 Reply with quote

I was legitimately buzzed for violating a stated rule. 3iff made a good ruling and there's no reason for him to go back on it. (But I do appreciate the support, jbv.)

There's nothing stated, however, that you can't make post when it isn't your turn. (It is even encouraged.) If that post looks suspiciously like a rule, well, that's for the other players to figure out that it isn't one, really. Maybe an unaware player will be so stressed trying to follow your pretend rule that he'll mess up on a real one. That sounds like a good (if devious) strategy.
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3iff
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:16 am    Post subject: 330 Reply with quote

Zag wrote:
I was legitimately buzzed for violating a stated rule. 3iff made a good ruling and there's no reason for him to go back on it.

And that's how I saw it. Another person made the buzz and I followed the 'rules'. It felt a tad harsh but that's how it goes.
As for the rule posted out of turn, I didn't see any problem...we just ignore it. It's not something I would encourage as a strategy though.

MatthewV wrote:
Rules games really only be run about once a year. It is a new meta rule.

Let's make it once every 2 years.
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jbvntx
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:26 pm    Post subject: 331 Reply with quote

Here goes... jack_ian's rule was hard Extreme Delectation . I won't be surprised if I messed something up here.
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jbvntx
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:26 pm    Post subject: 332 Reply with quote

NEW LeTteR nAMe manDated wItHin eaCh indiVidUal wOrd caPitaliZed altoGether interJectionallY enaBling QuicKer proXimate identiFication
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Jack_Ian
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:15 pm    Post subject: 333 Reply with quote

BUZZ!
DMTsurel wrote:
Proceed to the next level by having in your regulation a word lacking no vowel except Y.
You don't have a word with a,e,i,o & u but without y.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:34 pm    Post subject: 334 Reply with quote

oops. I had copied all the rules into another file because they're not bolded, so they're hard to pick out from the regular posts...

Well, almost all the rules.
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DMTsurel
The Other Israeli



PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:18 pm    Post subject: 335 Reply with quote

Use exclusively words of prime lengths. One is not prime, and neighboring punctuation is not counted.
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MatthewV
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:19 pm    Post subject: 336 Reply with quote

The requirement is to have a word that, in plain English, includes "all the vowels except Y". I don't see why such a word cannot have a Y in it. The statement merely says it doesn't have to include the Y. No?
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Zag
Tired of his old title



PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:48 am    Post subject: 337 Reply with quote

I agree. The "except Y" sounds like it is to clarify that Y is not included in the phrase "all vowels," not to say that it can't be included in the word. If it had said "all vowels except D" your response would have been, "but D isn't a vowel."
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Jedo the Jedi
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 4:18 am    Post subject: 338 Reply with quote

It can be read either way. If anything, that rule probably should have been zapped.

Another approach:
Rules wrote:
Ambiguous rules will be given the tougher interpretation for the rulemaker, and the lenient one for the other players. In general, though, if the intent of your rule is clear from the way you have followed it then, if valid, that interpretation will be accepted.

DMT should follow the "all vowels and no letter 'y'," whereas everybody else just needs one word with all vowels.
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3iff
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:41 am    Post subject: 339 Reply with quote

If I understand it correctly, the BUZZ is for jbvntx not including a word containing one of aeiou (regardless of the 'y' controversy).

If so, then BUZZ upheld. If I'm wrong (wouldn't be surprised...) shout out.

We start a new round as from post 335 (from DMT). That leaves three players in the running.
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MatthewV
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:16 pm    Post subject: 340 Reply with quote

Oh right. I saw a word that I thought had all the vowels in it. It didn't. Felicitous
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3iff
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:30 pm    Post subject: 341 Reply with quote

I had to check a few times just to make sure...
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Jedo the Jedi
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:39 pm    Post subject: 342 Reply with quote

...*blinks*

Alright, who's the Rhetor who changed his words?
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Sentran
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 5:52 pm    Post subject: 343 Reply with quote

To prevent being muddled, words may not contain apostrophes.
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Jack_Ian
Big Endian



PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:20 pm    Post subject: 344 Reply with quote

Equally letter-counted words are intolerable.
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Jack_Ian
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:37 pm    Post subject: 345 Reply with quote

Immediately after posting this rule, I realised that it might break the rule that prevented rules restricting word-count to under 16.
However then I remembered you can use anything-I-want-as-an-adjective words, so although difficult, it should be possible.
If requested by 3iff, or if I have time, I will present an example of a 17-word rule.
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DMTsurel
The Other Israeli



PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:42 pm    Post subject: 346 Reply with quote

Use parentheses in rules (clarification reasons).
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3iff
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 8:21 am    Post subject: 347 Reply with quote

Keep going...rules look ok so far.
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Sentran
Ray of Sucking Funshine



PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 1:03 am    Post subject: 348 Reply with quote

I'm just about to post my rule. It's a bit convoluted, so if I get buzzed for it, I'll understand.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 1:03 am    Post subject: 349 Reply with quote

(My two cents) buildup categorical numerological character-counting.
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Jack_Ian
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 1:04 pm    Post subject: 350 Reply with quote

I feel that your rule would make it impossible to make a 17-word rule. Any of the constructions I considered involved using the smaller words at the end.

I'm not about to buzz though, since nobody forced me to prove my rule complied with that particular requirement.

It took me a while to figure out your rule, but I'm assuming it means that the words should go in ascending order of size. Although there does not seem to be a requirement to not skip a prime.
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Jack_Ian
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 1:05 pm    Post subject: 351 Reply with quote

(in the rules) Reverse seven-letter multi-syllable, space-traversingly ultra-hyper-concealed.
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3iff
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 1:58 pm    Post subject: 352 Reply with quote

What's that in English?
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Jack_Ian
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:48 pm    Post subject: 353 Reply with quote

Seven-letter multi-syllabled word to be hidden within the rule with the characters in reverse order, spread over at least 2 words. Felicitous
It was a bit of a stretch, but I figured a multi-syllable could denote a multi-syllabled word.
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DMTsurel
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 4:43 pm    Post subject: 354 Reply with quote

(Me, sir!) periods interdicted
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Sentran
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 3:46 pm    Post subject: 355 Reply with quote

(se per) rules Reverse
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Jack_Ian
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 5:16 pm    Post subject: 356 Reply with quote

BUZZ
I believe your rule states "Reverse rules (per se)"
If I understand the rules of this game correctly, your rule needs to obey previous rules before any transformation rather than after any transformation is complete.
Your rule only fulfills the requirements after it is reversed.
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Jack_Ian
Big Endian



PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 5:23 pm    Post subject: 357 Reply with quote

BUZZ withdrawn
3iff wrote:
A rule as published must meet the current rules.

OK better put my thinking cap on.
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Jack_Ian
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:16 pm    Post subject: 358 Reply with quote

!KO oot sdrow esrever (cipytoerets ylgnitartsurF)
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DMTsurel
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:21 pm    Post subject: 359 Reply with quote

What's your seven-lettered word?
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Jack_Ian
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 1:28 am    Post subject: 360 Reply with quote

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