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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 12:53 am    Post subject: 161 Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 1:04 am    Post subject: 162 Reply with quote

Anagramming the page title might get you started.

The numbers you posted are not the right path to the solution.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 1:14 am    Post subject: 163 Reply with quote

coeditor mess
comet dossier
cos dosimeter
diocese storm
domestic rose
domestic sore
dosimeter cos
dossier comet
mess coeditor
osmotic seder
rose domestic
seder osmotic
sore domestic
storm diocese
toss mediocre

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 1:19 am    Post subject: 164 Reply with quote

None. 3 words. You're looking for a "code"
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 1:31 am    Post subject: 165 Reply with quote

Code trio mess?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 1:53 am    Post subject: 166 Reply with quote

Still not the right anagram. I think I need to do a better job clueing the code on this level. Its a very famous code though.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 2:54 am    Post subject: 167 Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 4:32 am    Post subject: 168 Reply with quote

Nice work. Any suggestions for how to clue 24 without giving it away?

UPDATE: I've completed 44 level up to this point. Some of you are pretty close to catching up to me.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 5:43 am    Post subject: 169 Reply with quote

Typo in "easter egg" comment on 20.
Also, I'm missing something: Book 'em, Danno is a catchphrase from Hawaii Five-O. The "book" is probably a reference to the fact the number on the sign is the ISBN for a self-help book called "first things first". However, none of the authors' names work, nor is taking the first letters of stuff, etc.So probably there's an extra hint that ties to them, but what?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 10:37 am    Post subject: 170 Reply with quote

You're trying too hard again. Extreme Delectation Just use the name of the book

Typo corrected...thx
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 4:28 pm    Post subject: 171 Reply with quote

46 levels now complete.

Anyone made it to the new color yet? (Level 30)
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 8:32 pm    Post subject: 172 Reply with quote

Any progress? Any help needed?

I have 49 levels completed, though I realized that I had two puzzles numbered 28. Rather than renumber every page, I pulled one of the two 28s and popped it onto the end. So if you've already passed that point, you may see a puzzle again.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 5:02 am    Post subject: 173 Reply with quote

I haven't touched it since reaching 21. Have you padded the beginning with intro-level puzzles yet? Felicitous
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 3:11 pm    Post subject: 174 Reply with quote

Not yet, as I'd really hate to renumber almost 50 levels unless I'm really sure about the final order.

Here's a link to four puzzles I was thinking of using. One puzzle will lead to the other, as usual:

http://www.glpics.com/suspence13/test/test.htm

Thoughts? Since you already have ideas on what to do with these, they should be easy. Try to wear your newbie hat while reviewing them.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 5:03 pm    Post subject: 175 Reply with quote

No need for renumbering. Just call them tutorial A, B etc, and have a link that skips to the current #1.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:08 pm    Post subject: 176 Reply with quote

Ultimately, I'd like to have them included in the level count, so I will renumber everything. I just want to be sure that I have a set lineup for all levels before I do so, so that I only have to do it once.

Any comment on any of the 4 "test" levels?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 3:30 am    Post subject: 177 Reply with quote

I did the first three. It sounds silly but I think you should have one that just says something like "the answer is in the page source" - it's not 100% clear everyone know such a thing (view page source) is even possible.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 9:16 am    Post subject: 178 Reply with quote

I had a problem with test level 4 owing to the fact that I have a UK keyboard. It was still perfectly possible, but a bit annoying that such a nicely elegant puzzle fell down at that stage. I agree with Antrax that an explicit instruction to look at the page source would be good to include somewhere.

(In passing I will note that I generally don't like these sort of linear games, simply because when you get stuck there is nowhere else to go. So there is a nasty tendency to give up completely rather than e.g. go off and work on another puzzle and let the first one percolate away in the back of your mind.)
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 9:34 am    Post subject: 179 Reply with quote

I'm with Scurra Re: linearity. It can be offset somewhat by easter egg pages.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 1:33 pm    Post subject: 180 Reply with quote

Antrax wrote:
I did the first three. It sounds silly but I think you should have one that just says something like "the answer is in the page source" - it's not 100% clear everyone know such a thing (view page source) is even possible.


Love this idea. How about - http://glpics.com/suspence13/test/start.htm

I also agree with the linearity problem with the puzzle. It's much too easy to give up on, but there's not a whole lot that can be done. If you run out of ideas on what to do, there aren't too many options. One thought I did have:

Other successful puzzles of this type I have seen have had message boards related to them, where people could discuss puzzles, get hints, etc. This would help you get started again. On one of the initial pages, I can make reference to this thread. People having trouble could visit here, see what we've discussed already, and reach out to me and you guys for further hints.

As far as a list of what I want to cover in the first few levels:
    Looking at the source code
    Looking at the names of the images
    Building solutions letter by letter
    A list of tools that might be helpful (currently located in the source of puzzle/start.htm, but I should include this after I've explained the source code)
    A link to this thread for help
    The concept of converting numbers to letters - seems universally understood here, but probably not everywhere
    A simple madgab with explanation Felicitous

Anything else I should try to cover?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 3:19 pm    Post subject: 181 Reply with quote

Not that I think of. Those were actually my next suggestions: a link to an anagram & cryptogram solver and reverse image search.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 4:21 pm    Post subject: 182 Reply with quote

Cool. I've got a seven level tutorial built starting at test/start.htm.

Tonight, I'll work on incorporating those into the main puzzle, renumbering, switching everything over to CSS, etc.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:56 am    Post subject: 183 Reply with quote

I've incorporated 10 new levels into the beginning of the puzzle, renumbered everything, and changed everything over to CSS.

That gives the puzzle 60 levels. Hopefully, there are at least some people still working on it.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 5:33 pm    Post subject: 184 Reply with quote

Now that I got to looking at 30 (used to be 21) it's quite puzzling.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 5:42 pm    Post subject: 185 Reply with quote

It's actually based on an encoding method I came up with years ago on the GL, in one of my "Sage Advice" puzzles.

The encoding method is clued by the title of the level.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 5:57 pm    Post subject: 186 Reply with quote

That much I gathered. I'll tell you what I tried, tell me how I overthought it:
Since there are 36 letters that don't seem to anagram to anything interesting nor cryptogram etc, I tried arranging them in various rectangles and reading from the top down ("first letters first") to no avail. Anagramming just the first letters of words also didn't suggest much. Adding first letters to each word won't work, since there are too many consonant sequences.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 6:01 pm    Post subject: 187 Reply with quote

Does it help if I tell you that the word lengths and spaces are unchanged from the original quote?

All of the letters are there (and therefore could actually be anagrammed), it is just that the first letters are first. And the second letters are next, etc.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 6:04 pm    Post subject: 188 Reply with quote

Damn, so close. Good puzzle Felicitous
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 6:09 pm    Post subject: 189 Reply with quote

Huh, you used one of my old desktops for the next one.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 5:49 pm    Post subject: 190 Reply with quote

I seem to be of the wrong gender. Am I missing anything?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:11 pm    Post subject: 191 Reply with quote

On the rainbow level? What have you found so far?

If nothing, visit the pages suggested by the mnemonic.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 11:23 pm    Post subject: 192 Reply with quote

66 levels now done.

Antrax is on 31 (formerly known as 22) at last check, and I know bgg had made it to 34 (25)at least. Endymion was up to 27 (18)

Anyone else care to update me on where they are? I know Zag and ralphmerridew had at least started the puzzle.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:46 am    Post subject: 193 Reply with quote

Suspence wrote:
On the rainbow level? What have you found so far?
I went to yellow, blue etc etc, each had a hex code embedded in the image. The hex codes translate to colors, I'm guessing the first letter of each color is the next level. Problem is, they all seem white to me - at best effort I have beige, blue, white, orange, light blue, purple and cyan. Probably you meant other names for the same colors.Hence my gender comment Felicitous
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 12:57 pm    Post subject: 194 Reply with quote

I wouldn't expect either gender to come up with the actual name of these colors on their own. Each color code has a defined HTML color name, for instance when you are writing code you can write either "#F0E68C" or "khaki"
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:50 pm    Post subject: 195 Reply with quote

Oh, I didn't know that about HTML. Even knowing it, it took 6-7 Google hits until I found the info I needed. Dunno what this says about the difficulty of the puzzle.
BTW, you can put an irrelevant Easter egg if you like: Roy G. Biv is the pseudonym Hugh Bliss uses in the first season of Sam & Max
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:07 pm    Post subject: 196 Reply with quote

Came up right away for me: http://www.google.com/search?q=html+color+names

Plus, if you search on any color, it seems to come up within the first few results as well - http://www.google.com/search?q=F0E68C

I know bgg passed this level without a hiccup. I gave him a small push on the "first things first" encoding to get him to the rainbow puzzle, then the next time I helped him was with the juggler, which is a few levels later.

Hopefully I'll get more feedback to accurately asses how solvable this one was.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:10 pm    Post subject: 197 Reply with quote

I'm on the juggler now, 32 was great, one of my favourites so far.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:12 pm    Post subject: 198 Reply with quote

Thanks. I've posted that here before, but glad you liked it.

Enjoy the juggler. If you run into problems, looking back to when bgg and I discussed it should help, but I'd love to know if it's solvable without a push.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:28 pm    Post subject: 199 Reply with quote

This may come as a surprise, but I don't really read VSP beyond anti-spam sweeps and the occasional chess puzzle Felicitous
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:35 pm    Post subject: 200 Reply with quote

Well, then, even more thanks for investing time into this puzzle.
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