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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 2:31 pm    Post subject: 601 Reply with quote

Vote: Cloudrunner aka Gabriel Grey, aka Sylar
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 2:32 pm    Post subject: 602 Reply with quote

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Vote: Cloudrunner aka Gabriel Grey, aka Sylar

Proof?
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 2:36 pm    Post subject: 603 Reply with quote

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That's assuming you're correct. What if we only have a doctor AND 1 shot immunities being activated. Then all we've done is out our doc. Also, the doctor can't tell us who is scum, just who they protected. They could be protecting scum for all we know! (unknowingly, of course)


The difference is I am NOT asking for any docs to reveal themselves. I don't want our Doc to reveal themselves with two scum alive. I want to confirm we do not have a roleblocker before moving any further. If we do have a roleblocker it is imperative we know who they are at this point since it's not just one night's killings that have gone undone, but two. Also, silverfire had immunities to nightkill because she was a godfather. Oftentimes a godfather is granted immunities to nightkill. It seems more like we still have a roleblocker in some capacity. If we don't have one, I will drop the subject, and again no matter what I do not want any doc to out themselves. I am only saying that if we have a roleblocker and they have stopped two kills, that at this point, we should know that information.

Why so scared to reveal a roleblocker ctorj? We still have a doctor right? Scared maybe he's been blocking you or that your name will come up in this mess?
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 2:36 pm    Post subject: 604 Reply with quote

I really hope there's still a doctor in this game.
My original ability activated if I targeted someone and they died. If that happened, I gained their power. I was targeting Amb on day one, so gained the roleblocker ability.
Night 1 I blocked Zag, which carried into day 2 (hence his failure to kill).
Night 2 I blocked Jedo.
Night 3 and 4 I have been blocking Cloudrunner.
I realize some of my calls have been off so far, but I'm pretty damned sure this time.
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 2:39 pm    Post subject: 605 Reply with quote

Well, there we go. Ctorj, I have a feeling you may be who Sentran will have us lynch tomorrow.

vote: cloudrunner
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 2:40 pm    Post subject: 606 Reply with quote

Sentran wrote:
I really hope there's still a doctor in this game.
My original ability activated if I targeted someone and they died. If that happened, I gained their power. I was targeting Amb on day one, so gained the roleblocker ability.
Night 1 I blocked Zag, which carried into day 2 (hence his failure to kill).
Night 2 I blocked Jedo.
Night 3 and 4 I have been blocking Cloudrunner.
I realize some of my calls have been off so far, but I'm pretty damned sure this time.

I have a tracking ability, not just Jedo.(which is why I was so pissed off that Jedo died) I can confirm that I did track Sentran to Cloudrunner on Night 3. I didn't know if Sentran was our doc, cop or what.

vote: Cloudrunner
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 2:41 pm    Post subject: 607 Reply with quote

Wait, re-reading that, you said you targeted the mod on day 1? Do you mean MNO? Or does targeting the mod somehow give you roleblocking powers?
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 2:43 pm    Post subject: 608 Reply with quote

Lucresia wrote:
Wait, re-reading that, you said you targeted the mod on day 1? Do you mean MNO? Or does targeting the mod somehow give you roleblocking powers?

Pretty sure he meant MNO.
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 2:48 pm    Post subject: 609 Reply with quote

Can't argue with that.

However lynching me today will be worthless. I acquired Silverfire's ability to escape a day kill. Even though her character in the show doesn't have powers, I can still take anyone's in-game abilities.

Oh, and Vote: Lucresia

She's your last scum and I've been trying to off her for the past two nights. Go read through the thread and see how she's posted along with her voting behavior. If I'm wrong, the mafia can take care of me tonight.
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 2:53 pm    Post subject: 610 Reply with quote

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Can't argue with that.

However lynching me today will be worthless. I acquired Silverfire's ability to escape a day kill.


His ability was a 1 shot ability and it was used already.

Any other excuses?
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 3:05 pm    Post subject: 611 Reply with quote

Yes, I meant MNO, not Amb. That's what I get for posting pre-coffee.
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 4:38 pm    Post subject: 612 Reply with quote

I'm very confident that cloudRunner will be lynched. With that said, I will reveal my results as well:
Night 2: Tracked Rubberduck- didn't go anywhere
Night 3: Tracked Sentran to cloudRunner
Night 4: Tracked cLoudrunner to Lucresia

I don't know why Lucresia is questioning a tracker, but a big fat FOS: Lucresia for that one. I will reveal my tracking results first thing in the daytime tomorrow to prove my innocence. We still have scum out there and Lucresia is acting VERY odd today. Also, something else happened last night that I'm not ready to reveal just yet. This is in case CL doesn't get lynched for some crazy reason. I wouldn't want to endanger anyone else. It's tough enough with Sentran & I revealing our powers.
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 5:09 pm    Post subject: 613 Reply with quote

If we have other scum out there, I am thinking that a mass claim could only help the town at this point. After all, we usually call for a mass claim on day 3, and it's day 5.

Does anyone else find it odd that Quailman, aka Luke, had no discernible powers or abilities?
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 5:11 pm    Post subject: 614 Reply with quote

One more thing...
I had a strong feeling on Day 4 that CR was Sylar, but with the possibility of ending the day with a kill from Zag, I did not want to tip my hand and let CR know I was on to him.
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 6:17 pm    Post subject: 615 Reply with quote

Sentran wrote:
One more thing...
I had a strong feeling on Day 4 that CR was Sylar, but with the possibility of ending the day with a kill from Zag, I did not want to tip my hand and let CR know I was on to him.

Dude, don't worry. You totally bought our trust that you're town. It's finding the other scum(s) that we have to focus on.

My Scum list in order of scummiest to towniest
(CloudRunner -will be dead soon) Most likely SK
Mafia
Lucresia
Undercover Monk
Rubberduck - his lack of action on Night 2 looks good for townie

Confirmed Town
Zag
Sentran
Ctorj

I like Lucresia and UM for the remaining mafia. Thoughts?
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 6:44 pm    Post subject: 616 Reply with quote

I also think that Zag is town, but had a bad read on Quailman. I'm also convinced that Lucresia is town. Undecided on all of the others.
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 6:56 pm    Post subject: 617 Reply with quote

Ctorj, I don't believe or disbelieve that you are a tracker, I do however doubt you are a town tracker if you are a tracker. I think that would be too powerful of a town to have two trackers. You are probably the mafia counter balance IF you are even a tracker.

Easy to pin suspicion on me now that cloudrunner throws my name out there isn't it? I am not sure what I have done to be considered as acting "VERY odd today".

I came to the consensus that two days in a row of night kills protected that we must have a roleblocker as well as a doctor, then we did have a roleblocker. Then once confirmed I voted to lynch based on our roleblocker's actions. I question the sudden "confirmed tracker" role that you are claiming you have. Now that you know Sentran's results, it is very easy to make up who you tracked and work it towards mafia advantage.

From your results (you've omitted the first night for some reason)
You seem to have checked all the people which can be confirmed. You checked Sentran on the night he tried cloudrunner and you tried cloudrunner when he claims he tried to target me. How convenient. The only one you added was rubberduck. If you are mafia, then that indicates to me that rubebrduck is most likely your buddy and you are trying to clear him. This is an IF you are mafia. You are my highest suspicion at this point.
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 7:30 pm    Post subject: 618 Reply with quote

Realize when Rubberduck shows up as townie, you'll have a serious problem. No matter though. We'll lynch you soon enough.

Speaking of which, I noticed you haven't claimed at all. Any reason for the silence?
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 7:33 pm    Post subject: 619 Reply with quote

Are you calling for a mass claim? I thought only this morning you asked why I would want to call out people with two scum alive? How contradictory.
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 7:53 pm    Post subject: 620 Reply with quote

I appreciate the nod, Ctorj, but I only consider Sentran to be cleared. You're below most of the other in suspicion, though.

I feel as though I've been wrong this whole game. I think, though, that Sentran has finally given us some real info. CR is at L-1, and, given my record, I'm not inclined to drop the hammer without at least some response from him.

There is some speculation that he isn't scum, but a serial killer, however that doesn't explain the lack of a night kill by the scum. And if he is an SK, I'm not sure I would lynch him today -- the town is definitely behind at this point, and a serial killer seems as likely to help us as hurt us. On the other hand, I think that the evidence points better to the fact that he is mafia and is the one designated to perform the kills (which is why a roleblocker can stop him). I agree that he's our best choice for a lynch, but I'd like to hear a response first.

I'd also like to hear from UM. I have him fairly high on my suspicion list, for a couple of small reasons, but they might be nothing. Otherwise, Lucresia's behavior has seemed odd to me, though not necessarily scummy.
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 8:35 pm    Post subject: 621 Reply with quote

I am molly walker and had a 3 shot ability to look for a specific role and amb would tell me who they were if they were in the game. Ive used up my shots because no one wanted to go with my mass claim idea. please dont lynch cloudrunner till we have heard from everyone guy!!!!!!

first night I checked peter petrelli and can confirm sentrans claim. (I also re-read my role pm and found out I could use my ability during the day so yeah I was wrong about active abilities, whatevs)

Next I checked for Eric Doyle (puppet master) he is not in the game so we still have no idead what caused sentran to vote for himself day 1.

Then I realized I should have checked for sylar a long time ago but apparently his attack on molly has caused her to be unable to look for him due to the trauma of the attack. so no luck there.

Then after luke campbell appeared (he only appeared in 3 episodes during the fugitives arc in season 3) I naturally assumed that Emile Dank (the hunter who worked with noah bennette that arc) was also in the game but no such luck sorry guys.

I guess I should have checked Zag. but I was sure that the puppet master or danko was in the game.

and yeah anyone who would think I would throw silverfire under the bus like that on day 1 especially when it appeared I may be the one who was going to be lynched is retarded.
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 8:39 pm    Post subject: 622 Reply with quote

Undercover Monk wrote:
I am molly walker


UM is a 10 year old girl. Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 8:40 pm    Post subject: 623 Reply with quote

shut your face or i will go all ted sprauge on you. Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 8:41 pm    Post subject: 624 Reply with quote

Vote Count
4. Cloudrunner: Sentran, Lucresia, Ctorj, Lifeinmomland

I wont even bother counting the other votes up, as 4 is enough, and no one else was on four.

Cloudrunner, Sylar, Serial Killer was lynched.

Cloudrunner was able to learn the skills of any "mutant" player (for lack of a better term).

It is now night. There are 6 alive.
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 4:19 am    Post subject: 625 Reply with quote

"There is no deadline on night ATM, so im just PMing players for choices. Good luck."

That exact wording was sent to all players who can make choices, which may or may not be everybody.
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 8:16 pm    Post subject: 626 Reply with quote

The town just cant seem to lose any at the moment. Day dawns, and no one is dead. It will take 4 to lynch.
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 8:26 pm    Post subject: 627 Reply with quote

Vote: Ctorj

Reasons posted yesterday, I believe he's mafia tracker.
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 8:31 pm    Post subject: 628 Reply with quote

or actually, I think he's not a tracker at all, but still if he IS by chance, I am pretty confident he's mafia either way.
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 10:03 pm    Post subject: 629 Reply with quote

Ctorj, what do you have to say about being a second tracker? It does seem pretty unlikely that there would be two of them in the game. Your claims of whom you tracked seem pretty safe guesses. Rubberduck, would you like to deny his assertion that you did not go anywhere on night 2?

Also, Ctorj, what did you do on night 1?
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 10:19 pm    Post subject: 630 Reply with quote

Vote: Ctorj
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 10:52 pm    Post subject: 631 Reply with quote

Well, I can't deny going nowhere Zag, being as I can never go anywhere on any night. I don't have a night choice. He's claimed tracker, but has not said a role (That I could see) I want to know who he's supposed to be.

Also, don't put him at L-1 yet, the only power sylar managed to steal (I think) was Hiro's, meaning both LIML and CR have votes from the grave. I want to see his claim before we kill him.
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 11:06 pm    Post subject: 632 Reply with quote

Zag wrote:
Also, Ctorj, what did you do on night 1?

For that matter, what did you do last night Ctorj?

RubberDuck wrote:
Also, don't put him at L-1 yet, the only power sylar managed to steal (I think) was Hiro's, meaning both LIML and CR have votes from the grave. I want to see his claim before we kill him.

A reasonable assumption. Unvote
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 11:11 pm    Post subject: 633 Reply with quote

I don't get this;

Ctorj wrote:
I'm very confident that cloudRunner will be lynched. With that said, I will reveal my results as well:
Night 2: Tracked Rubberduck- didn't go anywhere
Night 3: Tracked Sentran to cloudRunner
Night 4: Tracked cLoudrunner to Lucresia

I don't know why Lucresia is questioning a tracker, but a big fat FOS: Lucresia for that one. I will reveal my tracking results first thing in the daytime tomorrow to prove my innocence. We still have scum out there and Lucresia is acting VERY odd today. Also, something else happened last night that I'm not ready to reveal just yet. This is in case CL doesn't get lynched for some crazy reason. I wouldn't want to endanger anyone else. It's tough enough with Sentran & I revealing our powers.


How is it Lucresia's fault for being targetted by the sk? Or was surviving her fault?
What was the something else that happened last night (night before last now?)
CL? I think you mean CR Razz
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 11:13 pm    Post subject: 634 Reply with quote

Scratch the first one, the fos was for questioning a tracker, not for being targetted.. *idiot.
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 11:19 pm    Post subject: 635 Reply with quote

I also would like to know what else he is saying happened and I want to know about his night 1 choice. It seems strange that he would specifically omit that.
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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2011 5:32 am    Post subject: 636 Reply with quote

ok, time to explain some things. At the end, you'll see why I did what I did.

1. Last night, I tried to Track Sentran to prove my innocence
Ctorj Day 5 wrote:
I will reveal my tracking results first thing in the daytime tomorrow to prove my innocence.
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However, I assume it was Sentran who role blocked me last night. So, of course, I have no results to confirm that I am a tracker. I wish he hadn't done that, but what's done is done. You can argue against me all you want, but that is the truth.

2. My Night 1 action was hidden because I was scared that the mafia would target me right away if they knew my powers. Night 1 I targeted Jedo. I have the exact same abilities as Sentran.
*Now, before anyone goes nuts, realize that this is true and I don't have a say in this. These are the powers given to me. I know Lucresia will go nuts jumping up and down saying "You stole that from Sentran!". I didn't. He gained role-blocking powers and I gained tracking powers on Night 2 once Jedo was killed.

3. Can Rubberduck confirm my tracking result on Night 2 that he did nothing? This will give my claim some credit.

4. I was approached by a Mason recruiter 2 nights ago. I declined because right now I'm being railroaded over on MS for being neighborized. Those guys are ready to lynch me even though I'm townie and I didn't want the same issues here. Go look over on MS to verify this if you want.

5.. Most importantly, this is potentially a LYNCH OR LOSE situation! If there are 2 scum left: I die then they kill another townie tonight. Then Day 7 there's 2 scum and 2 townies. This is an auto-win for the mafia. PLEASE be very careful on who we lynch today.

6. Also:
Lucresia wrote:
Are you calling for a mass claim? I thought only this morning you asked why I would want to call out people with two scum alive? How contradictory.

You are lying here. I was actually accusing you earlier of wanting to out the doctor and role-blocker so soon with 2 scum left. No where in any of my posts except this one, am I calling for a mass role claim. The post before yours was asking for YOUR role only. Something you STILL haven't done yet. Quit putting words in my mouth. You're the one being contradictory.


I was really hoping to reveal my tracking results to at least prove that I can really track, but blocking me from doing it defeats the entire purpose.

Now that I've fully claimed, I'd like to hear everyone else's claims.
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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2011 7:57 am    Post subject: 637 Reply with quote

The only people in the heroes series that can steal or assume, or take other peoples powers are:

Peter Petrelli - Empathy, this allows Peter to gain abilities by proximity to another hero.

Arthur Petrelli - Steals abilities by direct physical contact with victim (leaving victim powerless and often, though not always, maimed or dead.)

Sylar - Intuitive aptitude combined with brain examination, later in series 3 Arthur Petrelli teaches Sylar to absorb abilities through empathy like Peter Petrelli meaning sylar can forgo the need to kill people to gain their power.

The last one that I know of is the episode Shades of Gray, where it is revealed that Samson Gray, Sylars father has the identical Intuitive Aptitude ability and had formely lead a similar life to Sylar in serial killing to gain powers.

Obviously Sentran has claimed Peter Petrelli, and CR was Sylar, so that only leaves Samson Gray, a retired SK, and Arthur Petrelli. Samson Gray, like Sylar has to remove the top of peoples heads to gain their ability so I doubt Ctorj is him.
Arthur Peterlli was one of the founding members of The Company, the organisation bagging and tagging heroes or "Mutants", and later The Pinehearst Company reasearching mutants. Arthur Petrelli was the prominent antagonist in season 3 and was defeated by Sylar, the Haitian, and Peter Petrelli.

UM, you know the show quite well, are there any other characters that I have missed capable of such action?

It is possible we have two Peter Petrelli's. Sentran & Ctorj, one is normal inept peter, the other is future scarface/evil Peter. This is a possibility, especially being as Ctorj has the same restrictions on his natural ability as Sentran.

My guess is Ctorj is 50/50 between Arthur Petrelli or Future Peter.

Quailman mentioned something about a mason group, and now Ctorj has brought it up. I'd like to hear more on this matter.

Ctorj, I have already said to Zag that I went nowhere.
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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2011 8:02 am    Post subject: 638 Reply with quote

I should have started with this:

Ctorj wrote:
Now that I've fully claimed, I'd like to hear everyone else's claims.


No you did not, you fully explained your ability and how you used it. You seem to have quite intentionally left out what character you are.
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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2011 1:24 pm    Post subject: 639 Reply with quote

Ctorj wrote:

4. I was approached by a Mason recruiter 2 nights ago. I declined because right now I'm being railroaded over on MS for being neighborized. Those guys are ready to lynch me even though I'm townie and I didn't want the same issues here. Go look over on MS to verify this if you want.

Could you explain this? Specificially:

1. What does 'neighborized' mean?
2. What could be the downside of joining masons, once recruited? (Perhaps this is answered by #1.)
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I still think it strange that ctorj will not fully claim with his name. I said I believe there is a possibility he could be a tracker, I just find it hard to believe there is another one on the town side. How he describes getting the ability makes sense and would explain why one is on the town side, but purposely avoiding the role name...hmm. Once I hear the name of his character I will decide whether to rescind my vote. name. Without providing the name, you could easily be making up a plausible sounding pm ability. You also very well could have not had a choice in your answer to the mason group. If you are in fact mafia, you wouldn't be allowed to join a mason group. That could explain why someone wouldn't want to join a mason group, because honestly I can't think of a reason why not to join.

And ctorj, why would you want to out my role too? Outing more roles than necessary when we have an unknown amount of scum alive, leaves me a bit concerned. Also there was no lie, but simply a question. You were just saying we shouldnt provide too much information to the scum, but then ask me to out my role, so is that not enough information or are you now asking for a mass claim (this is my thinking based on what you said). you say you don't want that, so I actually am confused at the scenario now.

Also going to point out that we again did not have a death last night. If we have a doctor this lucky, I would be shocked. It is more likely that we have mafia left whom don't have the ability to kill if they use their abilities. This means a possible scenario is that ctorj had a choice to either prove his tracking abilility (yes see that I didnt say innocence only tracking ability) by tracking Sentran last night. If he tracks, perhaps he can't kill. In that aspect we would have had no deaths but it may have been worth it to ctorj in order to "prove" he was a tracker in hopes of not being lynched today. This is really why the name is so important. Of course another more simplistic option is that ctorj is just mafia and sentran's roleblock did prevent him from killing.
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