Ender's Game Mafia is over. Congrats, Town!!

[raekuul]

I guess I'll drop the hammer today. vote:Ctorj

[Ctorj]

*sigh*

What Jedo finds scummy in me is everything. I remember this from back in the old mafia days. I guess no one remembers my old playing style. And saying "He seemed scummy to me" is not a legitimate reason to lynch someone. Nor is impatience. Mafia scored a big one with this lynch.

Congratz guys for lynching your doctor. Morons.
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[Zag]

Ctorj has to be forced up on to the gallows, and he gives a final, vitriolic shout, claiming you all to be mentally deficient (check his spoiler text), before the noose pulls tight. Searching his room later (together, of course), you find the following in his personal journal.

[Zag]

Official vote count

[Zag]

Official deadline for night actions, 23 hours from this post.

[Zag]

Morning dawns on most of you. Sadly, MNOWAX seems nowhere to be found. A detailed search uncovers a freshly-dug grave containing what little remains of his body. In his room, the following is discovered:

[Sniklac16]

Well that was a neat role, too bad he died that could of really helped the town. Im still very suspicious of chaz, hes being unnaturally quiet. I mean hes usually the life of the game constantly poting his crack pot theories, yet this game almost nothing
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[raekuul]

Is this a Mafia game or a Mexican Standoff?

MNO wasn't voting at the end Day 2 (and had been voting Jedo prior to unvoting), so we can't use a direct revenge check there. The only thing I can think of was his back-and-forth with Jedo, but the more I think about it the more it feels like a setup.

As for the Ctorj lynch... okay, the hammer there was not my brightest move ever. Aside from myself, we had UM, who was reluctant to vote; Chaz, who thought he was suspicious of Ctorj anyway; Momland, who I can't seem to get a good read on; and Jedo, who likely was voting Ctorj in response to Ctorj voting Jedo.

[Jedo the Jedi]

It's so cool when people can't get the facts straight. I voted Ctorj first.

Chaz, rae, and Snik have had negligible contributions to this game. (mom could probably be thrown in their too, but I have trouble using that as a scum-tell.) rae has probably contributed the most, followed by Snik, then Chaz. Considering the actual things they've said, I'm willing to vote Chaz for this reason.

vote Chaz

Beyond that, Monk is pretty much cleared in my book. He's had good activity with quality posts.
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Paragon Tally: 19 mafia, 3 SKs (1 twice), 1 cultist, numerous chat scum...and counting.

[Zag]

I've had a PM sent to Chaz and uncollected since last Wednesday. Frankly, I'm worried that it could be something serious -- he's usually on several times a day.

However, with our best wishes for him in real life, bgg1996 is taking his place in the game. Welcome, bgg!

[Undercover Monk]

no offense bgg but Chaz looks bad already thanks to how fast sentran was lynched as i already covered. But I do want your opinion on the game maybe a fresh eye will shake the quagmire.

To be honest MNO was the best kill mafia could make cause he didnt post much so not much to go on there i will try to get more reviewing done soon.
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2.Never go in against a Sicilian when DEATH is on the line
3. Never release Peyton Manning

[bgg1996]

Hello, I will be your substitute Chaz for this evening.

Hmmmm, I need a plan. Maybe a discussion starter?
If I were to say "If I were to vote myself, would you vote for me, yes or no, and why?" what would you say, and why? Would it be true?
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[Sniklac16]

Well I hope everything is alright with Chaz....that being said since we do have a replacement for him im gonna go ahead and unvote until hes had a chance to read the game and give us his view
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[Undercover Monk]

i dont know why but bggs post really bothers me for some reason.
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1. never get involved in a land war in Asia
2.Never go in against a Sicilian when DEATH is on the line
3. Never release Peyton Manning

[Jedo the Jedi]

He's a rookie? I don't really read anything beyond that. His main problem will be an uphill climb (at least in my book).

Anyway, I don't know how to answer the hypothetical question within the hypothetical question. Attempting to do so would probably destroy the time-space continuum. Suffice to say, I am voting you, and you need to square with that. If you want to prove yourself, read the thread and give us some of your thoughts on who you think is scum. Also, post more than your predecessor.
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Paragon Tally: 19 mafia, 3 SKs (1 twice), 1 cultist, numerous chat scum...and counting.

[bgg1996]

[Undercover Monk]

well the problem is you are replacing a player who was next on my list to lynch yet i wanted to offer you a chance to review the thread and offer your opinion but if you dont want to that...
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1. never get involved in a land war in Asia
2.Never go in against a Sicilian when DEATH is on the line
3. Never release Peyton Manning

[Lifeinmomland]

So... that happened. We have lynched a mafia and a townie. And two more townies have been killed. The info that can be drawn from the MNO murder is what? I am not sure if I am not getting because I am new or is there is nothing to get here!

After going back over posts, I feel UM, JEDO, and CHAZ are the most suspicious. (Sorry BGG) That being said Chaz is on the top of that list

FOS UM and JEDO

but ultimately my vote goes with Chaz (or rather BGG now). VOTE BGG In the end it was Chaz's argument, and Ctorj's lack of convincing argument that lead to my vote on Ctorj.

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[bgg1996]

FoS: the two people above me.
No, it isn't just OMGUS.
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[Sniklac16]

I wanna give you the benefit of the doubt bgg being new and all, but giving absolutely no contribution to the game and coming out putting an FOS on the people voting you just makes you look scummy....Im gonna go ahead and vote bgg hopefully putting a little more pressure on you to actually read the game and make some sort of contribution
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[bgg1996]

Not BECAUSE they voted for me.

I believe that UM to be scum. When Sentran was lynched in three or four consecutive posts, I thought that there would need to be more than just the word of a normal town. He said, as I remember, maybe we'll hit scum, and I believe the other scum took that to mean to bus Sentran. Of the people who posted afterwards, I suspect LIML the most.
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[raekuul]

Then why not vote for Momland, if you suspect her the most?

[Jedo the Jedi]

unvote

I'm going to reign this back. I think we're at lynch or lose (unless there are only two scum). Here's a vibe I'm getting: I feel Mom and Snik might be the remaining scum. I'm not exactly sure why, but their responses when we start zeroing in on someone strike me as odd. I think we need to use some caution today.

Monk and rae, do you think you could go back and see if there is anything suspicious with these two? Maybe I'm just crazy.

Also, this being the potential endgame, maybe it's time to start considering a mass claim. I'm not fully confident that's what we should do today, but if we really do have two scum left, it will have to be today.
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Paragon Tally: 19 mafia, 3 SKs (1 twice), 1 cultist, numerous chat scum...and counting.

[Chaz]

Crap. Sorry guys. I've been super busy with wedding planning (it's coming faster than I thought it would, for sure.)

[I edited out Chaz's commentary and vote. --Zag]
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[Chaz]

Oh! I've been replaced. heh.

Sorry guys.
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[Undercover Monk]

its cool Chaz
I will look back at the thread sometime today. Ive needed to do it anyway.
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The Classic Blunders:
1. never get involved in a land war in Asia
2.Never go in against a Sicilian when DEATH is on the line
3. Never release Peyton Manning

[Lifeinmomland]

So, in order to defend myself I would need examples of my scummy behavior, but as you have done at least once before you use a “feeling” to make a beginning for your argument. It was a useful tool when you used it to lead the way on the Ctorj lynch. I am not terribly surprised you are “feeling” me now.
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[Jedo the Jedi]

You're very witty.

Anyway, the problem is you have been on every wagon/lynch we have had, but you're not really the person to start it or espouse reasoning. You just join. What's especially striking today is how at the end of yesterday you said Chaz wasn't suspicious at all, but today he's at the top of your list. That doesn't add up.

Since I think we're close to the end, I'm going to leave my vote off for now, but it may be coming soon.
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Paragon Tally: 19 mafia, 3 SKs (1 twice), 1 cultist, numerous chat scum...and counting.

[Undercover Monk]

looking back I just cant see snick putting on a 4th vote that quick. I can see a scum hammer from momland but thats a big time play for a rookie so i think im going with Chaz/bgg he had a chance to vote scum but unvoted instead.

so yeah unless things change i will be voting for bgg.
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The Classic Blunders:
1. never get involved in a land war in Asia
2.Never go in against a Sicilian when DEATH is on the line
3. Never release Peyton Manning

[Lifeinmomland]

Alright so now you have given me something to answer.
JEDO

[Jedo the Jedi]

Now that's a good post. Your actions seem more reasonable now, though I can still see a taint.

I think we need to mass claim. There's no way around it. It's rough because we no longer have a doctor (in theory), but I think it has to be done. Maybe we could just go in alphabetical order. Input would be nice, but I'm happy to just have bgg start for no other reason than to save his tail from another vote.
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Paragon Tally: 19 mafia, 3 SKs (1 twice), 1 cultist, numerous chat scum...and counting.

[Lifeinmomland]

Um., I believe you may need to give me an example of the claim you are talking about. Having not played before I do not understand what you mean.
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[raekuul]

It's just us claiming our roles and such. Shouldn't be anything too bad.

[Sniklac16]

for example if this was star wars mafia you might say im luke skywalker and im a doctor
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[bgg1996]

You might all think that I am one who would like to destroy this town, but I am actually the only one who can save its members.
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[Sniklac16]

How so? you come into this, have given absolutely no sign that you've even read the game up to date and have given no insight whatsoever. Then actually say you can save the town? How can we believe you if you when you still haven't even given any contribution or your views on anything? That being said im happy with where my vote currently is
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[bgg1996]

That sentence could be interpreted in two very different ways. Town may not have been the right word.
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[Jedo the Jedi]

Just claim straight out. We're all going to do it. If I'm right, we have to nail scum today, and I think this is the best chance we have of doing that.
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Paragon Tally: 19 mafia, 3 SKs (1 twice), 1 cultist, numerous chat scum...and counting.

[Undercover Monk]

personnaly the mass claim scares me and i would have thought it scared jedo too


we dont have a doc so our best role is gonna get taken out =(
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1. never get involved in a land war in Asia
2.Never go in against a Sicilian when DEATH is on the line
3. Never release Peyton Manning

[bgg1996]

Who knows, there might still be a doctor.
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