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bonanova
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 9:44 pm    Post subject: 1 Reply with quote

This is an old one with a twist. You have a fuse which burns at an uneven rate, but it's symmetrical about its midpoint. Starting from either end it burns completely in one hour. What is the shortest time interval it can measure?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 9:52 pm    Post subject: 2 Reply with quote

Do you have other tools available? I mean, you can do 1 second if you wanted: mark the midpoint, burn the fuse from end A for 1 second, extinguish it, measure the distance from the midpoint, and cut off the amount that burned from end B, and you now have a 1 second fuse.

Code:
A----------+----------B
A...-------+----------B
A...-------+-------  *snip*  ---B

zz z z z z z z z z z z z z z z z z zone-second fuse ^
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 9:54 pm    Post subject: 3 Reply with quote

Other tools = scissors, matches, but no stopwatch.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 10:02 pm    Post subject: 4 Reply with quote

i get 7.5 minutes by
1) cutting in half due to symmetry we are left with two 30 minutes.
2) light one of the halves in both sides until the two burning ends meet. cut the remaining half at the same distance from the end (using the symmetry). we get two 15 minute fuses left.
3) light one of the 15m fuses on both side and the second on just one end. Turn the second fuse off when the first completely burns. we are left with a 7.5 minutes fuse.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 12:06 am    Post subject: 5 Reply with quote

NSOF, your 7.5 minute fuse can be turned into a 3.25 minute fuse by lighting it on both ends.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 1:59 am    Post subject: 6 Reply with quote

You mean 3.75.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 4:52 am    Post subject: 7 Reply with quote

Thok* wrote:
NSOF, your 7.5 minute fuse can be turned into a 3.25 minute fuse by lighting it on both ends.

No, the only way you can get it to be a 7.5 minute fuse is by lighting one end of the first 15 min fuse while the second 15 min fuse is burned at both ends -- which will burn out after 7.5 minutes. If you light both ends, then both 15 min fuses will burn out at the same time.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 6:48 am    Post subject: 8 Reply with quote

I think Thok's point was that once you have the 7.5 minute fuse, you could light both ends of it.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 4:18 pm    Post subject: 9 Reply with quote

Nsof, the fuse burns at an uneven rate, an therefore does not exhibit symmetry. Edit: Stupid me, I didn't read the original post very well. Sorry Revenge most foul! I now agree with 3.75
bonanova: I assume "zero" is not the answer you were looking for? Revenge most foul! Also, are we to assume that we only have one fuse?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 4:54 pm    Post subject: 10 Reply with quote

Right on all counts.
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