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Neo
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2002 5:20 am Post subject: 1 |
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Jim, a billionaire from Singapore, was on a cruise on his yacht when one morning after laying at anchor, the crew found him floating dead in the water. Jim was 24 and in perfect health before he died.
What caused Jim to die?
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Suspence
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2002 5:34 am Post subject: 2 |
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Did the fact that Jim was a billionaire play some part in his death?
Did Jim make his billions through legal methods?
Did the fact that Jim was from Singapore play some part in his death?
If Jim was from any other country, would he still be dead today?
How many crew members were aboard this yacht?
How many crew members found Jim dead?
Any female crew members?
Did Jim die by drowning?
Was Jim married?
Are there any marks, bruises, cuts, etc. on Jim's body that could determine Jim's cause of death?
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Neo
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2002 5:54 am Post subject: 3 |
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Did the fact that Jim was a billionaire play some part in his death? yes
Did Jim make his billions through legal methods? yes
Did the fact that Jim was from Singapore play some part in his death? no
If Jim was from any other country, would he still be dead today? irrelevent
How many crew members were aboard this yacht? doesn't matter
How many crew members found Jim dead? doesn't matter
Any female crew members? doesn't matter
Did Jim die by drowning? no
Was Jim married? yes
Are there any marks, bruises, cuts, etc. on Jim's body that could determine Jim's cause of death? no |
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Suspence
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2002 6:03 am Post subject: 4 |
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Is the fact that Jim was married important to the solution of this lateral?
Did Jim inherit his billions?
Was Jim killed by another person?
Was Jim poisoned?
Was Jim dead before he went into the water?
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Neo
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2002 6:07 am Post subject: 5 |
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Is the fact that Jim was married important to the solution of this lateral? yes
Did Jim inherit his billions? no
Was Jim killed by another person? yes
Was Jim poisoned? yes
Was Jim dead before he went into the water? no |
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Suspence
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2002 6:36 am Post subject: 6 |
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Was Jim poisoned by his wife?
Is the way in which Jim made his billions important?
Was Jim poisoned before he went in the water?
Was the person who poisoned Jim aboard the yacht?
Were any other boats involved?
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Tahnan
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2002 7:21 am Post subject: 7 |
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mutter mutter clearly wasn't in perfect health if he was dead mutter mutter
;-) |
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Neo
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2002 6:57 pm Post subject: 8 |
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Was Jim poisoned by his wife? yes
Is the way in which Jim made his billions important? no
Was Jim poisoned before he went in the water? yes
Was the person who poisoned Jim aboard the yacht? no
Were any other boats involved? no |
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groza528
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2002 7:10 pm Post subject: 9 |
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did he eat something poisoned by his wife?
did some outside force cause him to fall into the water (i.e. a push?)
did his wife poison him for his money? (seems obvious, but you never know) |
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Neo
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2002 7:31 pm Post subject: 10 |
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did he eat something poisoned by his wife? no
did some outside force cause him to fall into the water (i.e. a push?) no
did his wife poison him for his money? (seems obvious, but you never know) yes |
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UnheardVoice
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2002 8:15 pm Post subject: 11 |
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Was the poison in liquid form? Gas form?
Was his wife on the yacht when Jim died? |
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Neo
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2002 8:30 pm Post subject: 12 |
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Was the poison in liquid form? Gas form? no to both
Was his wife on the yacht when Jim died? no
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Antrax
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2002 8:33 pm Post subject: 13 |
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Did his wife deliberately poison him?
If another person ingested the same substance she used for the poisoning, would that person have survived?
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Neo
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2002 9:05 pm Post subject: 14 |
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Did his wife deliberately poison him? yes
If another person ingested the same substance she used for the poisoning, would that person have survived? ehh...yes and no... |
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Antrax
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2002 9:07 pm Post subject: 15 |
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Would the man do anything but consume the poisoned substance, would he have survived?
Did he even consume the poison?
Or was he injected it?
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planet_buzz
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2002 9:12 pm Post subject: 16 |
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...anything to do with the fish that if you filet it the wrong way is poisonious?
...anything to do with allergic reactions?
...anything to do with large stuffed penguins? (i like to cover all my bases) |
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GH
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2002 9:13 pm Post subject: 17 |
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| Did Jim *know* he was poisoned? |
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Neo
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2002 9:21 pm Post subject: 18 |
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Would the man do anything but consume the poisoned substance, would he have survived? rephrase
Did he even consume the poison? yes
Or was he injected it? no
...anything to do with the fish that if you filet it the wrong way is poisonious? no
...anything to do with allergic reactions? no
...anything to do with large stuffed penguins? (i like to cover all my bases) no
Did Jim *know* he was poisoned? I'm sure by the time his heart was stopping and he saw long dead family members with a bright light behind them telling him to go toward the light, he figured it out, but he didn't know before that.
As for the question: If another person ingested the same substance she used for the poisoning, would that person have survived? Some thought about it has brough the answer to "most likely, no |
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MBA
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2002 9:37 pm Post subject: 19 |
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Did the poison (which would be non-fatal to somebody else) react to another substance in Jim and it was that combination which killed him?
If Jim had fallen in fresh water, would he have died?
If Jim had fallen in salt water, would he have died?
Did Jim fall into fresh water?
Did Jim fall into salt water?
If Jim had fallen into lava, would he have died? (Just checking to see if you're really reading these )
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Antrax
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2002 9:56 pm Post subject: 20 |
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If Jim took 24 hours in which he did nothing but consume that substance, and then do nothing but lie around and breath, would he have died?
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Neo
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2002 11:01 pm Post subject: 21 |
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Did the poison (which would be non-fatal to somebody else) react to another substance in Jim and it was that combination which killed him? yes
If Jim had fallen in fresh water, would he have died? doesn't matter
If Jim had fallen in salt water, would he have died? doesn't matter
Did Jim fall into fresh water? no
Did Jim fall into salt water? yes
If Jim had fallen into lava, would he have died? (Just checking to see if you're really reading these ) no.......*wakes up* i mean yes!
If Jim took 24 hours in which he did nothing but consume that substance, and then do nothing but lie around and breath, would he have died? no |
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MBA
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Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2002 1:49 am Post subject: 22 |
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<mumbling to self>OK folks, what else could be in water that could react to an inert poison, thus activating the poison?</mumbling>
Did Jim fall into an oil spill?
Was Jim pushed out the window of the Exxon Valdez by Mrs. Captain Hazelwood? |
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Neo
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Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2002 1:54 am Post subject: 23 |
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Did Jim fall into an oil spill? no
Was Jim pushed out the window of the Exxon Valdez by Mrs. Captain Hazelwood? ye-no! |
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Quickies I
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Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2002 2:08 am Post subject: 24 |
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Did this poison react with the water to kill Jim?
If Joe was not a billionaire, would the poison still have killed him?
Did the rest of the crew ingest the poison?
So Jim's wife poisoned him without even being on the yacht?
Was Jim's wife home at the time he died?
Did Jim's wife have access to the yacht before Jim left for the cruise?
Did she have to board the yacht to get the poison where she needed it to be?
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Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2002 2:10 am Post subject: 25 |
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posting as Quickies, huh? hmph.
Did the inert 'poison' react with the salt in the water?
Did it produce poisonous chlorine gas?
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Logain
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Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2002 2:15 am Post subject: 26 |
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Did Jim die from poisoning? (you hinted that his heart stopped, but I want to make sure that the poison didn't say...attract sharks to him, or maybe oxidized in the water causing a violent explosion)
Better yet, was Jim's body physically harmed on the exterior?
Is the poison an illegal substance?
Is the poison a prescription drug?
Is the poison a common household substance?
Is the poison something you'd obtain from a science lab?
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Lucky Wizard
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Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2002 2:22 am Post subject: 27 |
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Is this correct so far?
Jim's wife poisoned Jim in order to inherit his billions. The poison was ingested by Jim, who went sailing afterwards. Jim wound up in the water and died. Jim would not have died if he had not gone sailing. There is a chemical (which is either present in water or is typically ingested before going into water) that was in Jim as a result of his decision to go sailing. The chemical reacted with the poison, producing another chemical that killed Jim. The poison was in solid form. Jim did not wind up in the water as a result of some outside force.
Did Jim jump into the water?
Is the chemical that reacted with the poison present in water? Is it typically ingested before going into water? Or did Jim typically ingest it before going into water because of some kind of condition he had?
Does the fact that Jim was a billionaire have any importance beyond the fact that it was why his wife tried to kill him? If yes, was some type of expensive substance involved in his death? |
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Neo
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Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2002 2:23 am Post subject: 28 |
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Did this poison react with the water to kill Jim?no
If Joe was not a billionaire, would the poison still have killed him? yes
Did the rest of the crew ingest the poison? in a way, yes
So Jim's wife poisoned him without even being on the yacht? yes
Was Jim's wife home at the time he died? yes
Did Jim's wife have access to the yacht before Jim left for the
cruise? yes
Did she have to board the yacht to get the poison where she needed it to be? yes
Did the inert 'poison' react with the salt in the water? no
Did it produce poisonous chlorine gas? no
Did Jim die from poisoning? (you hinted that his heart stopped, but I want to make sure that the poison didn't say...attract sharks to him, or maybe oxidized in the water causing a violent explosion) the poison caused his heart to stop
Better yet, was Jim's body physically harmed on the exterior? no
Is the poison an illegal substance? this kind is very illegal
Is the poison a prescription drug? no
Is the poison a common household substance? I don't think so
Is the poison something you'd obtain from a science lab? it's possible
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Lucky Wizard
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Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2002 2:24 am Post subject: 29 |
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| Hmmm... Is the crew's presence relevant? |
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Neo
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Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2002 2:29 am Post subject: 30 |
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Jim's wife poisoned Jim in order to inherit his billions. The poison was ingested by Jim, who went sailing afterwards. Jim wound up in the water and died. Jim would not have died if he had not gone sailing. There is a chemical (which is either present in water or is typically ingested before going into water) that was in Jim as a result of his decision to go sailing. The chemical reacted with the poison, producing another chemical that killed Jim. The poison was in solid form. Jim did not wind up in the water as a result of some outside force. While some parts are correct, others are not, the bolded parts are not correct, italics mean it is either partially correct or on the right track.
Did Jim jump into the water? no
Is the chemical that reacted with the poison present in water? no
Is it typically ingested before going into water? no
Or did Jim typically ingest it before going into water because of some kind of condition he had? no
Does the fact that Jim was a billionaire have any importance beyond the fact that it was why his wife tried to kill him? no
If yes, was some type of expensive substance involved in his death? if wanted badly enough, one could probably aqcuire it, so no
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Neo
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Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2002 2:32 am Post subject: 31 |
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| Hmmm... Is the crew's presence relevant? yes |
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UnheardVoice
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Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2002 3:22 am Post subject: 32 |
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So I'm assuming the poison is in solid form, yes?
Did Jim's wife knew what Jim was going to do at sea?
If so, did she know exactly what Jim was going to do at sea?
If so, did Jim's wife stragetically place the poison so that when Jim did something, he would get poisoned and later die?
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hmmm...
Did Jim go into the water volunterally? forced? accidentally?
Before his death was Jim...
...swimming in the water?
...trying to swim in the water (because he can't swim)?
...scubadiving?
...snorkeling?
...boating?
...pearl-hunting?
...fishing?
Did the crew take part in the murder?
If so, did they do it knowingly? or by accident?
Were they promised money by the wife? |
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MBA
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Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2002 3:37 am Post subject: 33 |
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Is zinc related to the solution?
Is zinc oxide related to the solution?
Was Jim's sunblock involved?
Did Jim use the same sunblock as the rest of the crew?
Was the chemical potency/strength of Jim's sunblock relevant to his death?
<physics question to experts, it's been too long since I was in high school>Doesn't zinc react similar to magnesium when ignited and/or imersed in water such that it burns at a high temp?</physics question>
Did Jim apply sunblock to his entire body (and was he sailing in the nude?) and thus die from asphyxiation like the woman in Goldfinger?
Did something like this happen to Jim?
Is sulphur relevant to Jim's death?
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mikegoo
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Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2002 4:05 am Post subject: 34 |
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was Jim scuba diving?
if so was his tank "normal" for scuba diving? |
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Neo
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Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2002 4:22 am Post subject: 35 |
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So I'm assuming the poison is in solid form, yes? yes
Did Jim's wife knew what Jim was going to do at sea? yes
If so, did she know exactly what Jim was going to do at sea? no
If so, did Jim's wife stragetically place the poison so that when Jim did something, he would get poisoned and later die? yes
Did Jim go into the water volunterally?no forced?no accidentally? yes
Before his death was Jim...no to all
Did the crew take part in the murder? no
If so, did they do it knowingly? or by accident? see above
Is zinc related to the solution? no
Is zinc oxide related to the solution? no
Was Jim's sunblock involved? no
Did Jim use the same sunblock as the rest of the crew? doens't matter
Was the chemical potency/strength of Jim's sunblock relevant to his death? no
<physics question to experts, it's been too long since I was in high school>Doesn't zinc react similar to magnesium when ignited and/or imersed in water such that it burns at a high temp?</physics question> beats me
Did Jim apply sunblock to his entire body (and was he sailing in the nude?) and thus die from asphyxiation like the woman in Goldfinger? no
Did something like this happen to Jim? no
Is sulphur relevant to Jim's death? no
was Jim scuba diving? no |
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Suspence
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Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2002 4:35 am Post subject: 36 |
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Did Jim fall overboard due to the effects of the poison?
If Jim had just collapsed on the ship's deck, would he have died?
Did Jim know his wife had access to this poison?
Did Jim know this poison was present on his yacht?
Did Jim ingest the poison unknowingly?
Was it prepared in with his food?
Is Jim's profession important to the solution?
Was Jim clothed when he was found?
In regular everyday yachting clothes?
When Jim realized that he had been poisoned, did he immediately know that his wife was the culprit?
Would the identity of Jim's wife be at all helpful?
Which body of salt water did this occur in? Pacific?
Atlantic?
Indian?
Artic?
Mediterranean Sea?
Other?
Is there a limit on questions I can ask in one post?
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Neo
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Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2002 5:23 am Post subject: 37 |
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Did Jim fall overboard due to the effects of the poison? yes
If Jim had just collapsed on the ship's deck, would he have died? yes
Did Jim know his wife had access to this poison? no
Did Jim know this poison was present on his yacht? no
Did Jim ingest the poison unknowingly? would you knowingly ingest poison? yes
Was it prepared in with his food? yes
Is Jim's profession important to the solution? no
Was Jim clothed when he was found? yes
In regular everyday yachting clothes? I guess...what would these be?
When Jim realized that he had been poisoned, did he immediately know
that his wife was the culprit? doesn't matter
Would the identity of Jim's wife be at all helpful? no
Which body of salt water did this occur in? doesn't matter
Is there a limit on questions I can ask in one post? not really, as long as they are related to this puzzle |
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Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2002 7:07 pm Post subject: 38 |
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| Doesn't zinc react similar to magnesium when ignited and/or imersed in water such that it burns at a high temp? |
Seeing as iron and steel are often coated in zinc (aka galvanized) in order to keep it from rusting, I really don't think that zinc reacts violently to water, or much at all for that matter. Possibly, you're thinking of sodium. |
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daniel801
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Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2002 8:23 pm Post subject: 39 |
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| actually, potassium reacts violently in water |
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Logain
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Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2002 8:32 pm Post subject: 40 |
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actually, any salt in the first column will react explosively with water...Litium, Cesium, Sodium, Potassium.  |
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